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Does anyone know when this started?.....If a rifle was purchased in 1960, was there a form 4473 filled out then.....or one equivalent to record the original buyer?.......when did it start?


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i believe the first 4473 became available in 1968 with that gun control act
 
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It was the Gun control Act of 1968.
I had a .22 on lay away and paid it off the day before the 4473s started.
 
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Yes, 1968.


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It has had a few lines added over the years, but it dates back to LBJ.
 
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tnekkcc, Just so you know, that is a copy of the old form. It was updated in August 2008 for use beginning in October.


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We are to thank Lee Oswald for the GCA-68. Heavan help us if some idiot should repeat his act!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think the shooting of bobby Kennedy put us over the top.
 
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tnekkcc, Just so you know, that is a copy of the old form. It was updated in August 2008 for use beginning in October.


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I think the shooting of bobby Kennedy put us over the top.



Correct. It was stalled in Congress for a couple of years until Bobby was shot, apparently by a couple of people (if one can believe the History Channel), not just Sirhan Sirhan.

Anyway, regardless who or how many did it, that did pretty much assure passage of the stalled congressional bill. Seeing that looming, on August 26, 1968, I emigrated to Canada where one could still buy guns through the mail, etc. Then GCA '68 passed, with the 4473 and all the rest of the crap becoming effective in the U.S. on December 16, 1968.

For a long while, about 15 years thereafter, in the U.S. one even had to provide name & address and sign in a bound book, and show I.D. proving themself to be age 21 or over, to buy any pistol ammo, including .22 Long Rifle. Of course one could declare the .22 ammo to be for a rifle and avoid signing, but that would have been pretty tough to do for rounds like the .32 auto or 9m/m Makarov. The Supreme Court never batted an eye, so there is existing precendent in the U.S. for the even worse that is likely to come.
 
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AC, thanks for the clearification. I was just a pup but do recall Mom having to sign "the book" when I could talk her into re-supplying me with .22's at the local grocery store! I had a great uncle who had a small country store and simply stopped selling guns and ammo rather than indulge the government. He gave us kids most of the leftovers. Being a kid I shot most of it up but still have a full box of paper hulled .20ga slugs with his handwritten price in grease pencil on the flap - $0.20 each if I recall correctly! At any rate we don't need any more encouragement to those who'll surely try to make things even harder.
My apologies for hijacking the thread!
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Gird your loins, there is a new 4473 coming!
It seems to make more sense than the old one. Still asks the same questions, just a little more sensible design.
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One of the things that killed the ammo signing BS was when Thompson-Center brought out the Contender handgun in .30-30 Win. This brought up the issue of every old rancher and farmer having to sign for .30-30 handgun ammo.
 
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Does anyone know when this started?.....If a rifle was purchased in 1960, was there a form 4473 filled out then.....or one equivalent to record the original buyer?.......when did it start?
Forum 4473 started in Cuba during the Batista regime in the mid 1950's. Now if you mean in the US, as I assume you do, the Gun Control Act of 1968 started it for us, funny how it used the same number for the registration form@4473. Before that you could buy guns though the mail and they would be delivered to your door or left by the mail box. The grocery store in my home town used to sell mausers and SMLE 303 around deer season, if you had 15.00 and could see over the counter they sold it to you. Funny thing ,I don't remember any school shootings back then.

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