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1909 Argentina Mauser Model 98
20 January 2009, 05:08
skyeskye1909 Argentina Mauser Model 98
I have had for sometime now a very clean, matching serial numbers 1909 Argentina Mauser Model 98 action. It is just sitting here and thought just maybe I should do something with it. Anyway, my question is:
Could this be made into a 9.3X62 without much problems or terrible costs? It would just be a hunter....maybe dollars way head by buying a CZ already in that caliber?
20 January 2009, 05:18
butchlambertIt would be cheaper to buy the CZ.
Butch
20 January 2009, 05:50
craigsterIf you don't count the cost of the action you
might be able to do it. Don't know what the "street" price on the CZ is, but I think the MSRP is right around $870.
20 January 2009, 07:07
butchlambertCraigster,
You have a barrel, chambering cost, a stock and fitting, scope mounts and rings, trigger,and? The CZ would be a much nicer rifle for $870.
To make the Argentine nice even with a glass stock would be closer to $1100. and that ain't a full custom.
Butch
20 January 2009, 10:40
craigsterButch,
The following $ figures are from ER Shaw:
Barrel 155
Install and chamber 75
D&T for scope 45
Forge bolt 60
Bold trigger (side safety) 85
Blue 105
Shipping (both ways) 60
Total 585
If the CZ goes for 870, that leaves 285 for a plastic stock, rings and bases.
Optional heat treating of action, add 100 to the 585.
Have I missed anything?
Obviously, this would not be a full custom, but it would work. Also, the action cost is not included.
ER Shaw has it's pro's and con's, but that has been discussed at length in the past.
20 January 2009, 13:17
TC1If money is a concern you would be miles ahead by selling the action and buying the CZ. That said you could build a stunning beautiful rifle with the 1909 action. It wouldn't be cheap, but would be worthwhile. I used mine for a 9.3X62.
Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
20 January 2009, 18:24
PeglegTC1- WOW! Very nice rifle.
The only easy day is yesterday!
20 January 2009, 18:31
butchlambertCraigster, I suppose that you can do anything if you try. Doing it that way will not come close to the quality of a CZ. I would use the Argentine as Terry has on his beautiful rifle.
Butch
20 January 2009, 19:07
merlinronbuetiful gun, TC1...
just exactly what i want my .35 whelen( on the same action) to look like. i'm assembling the pieces right now, hoping to have it done for deer seaon next winter.
never built one with iron sights, yet, may i ask....what brand/part# are those on your rifle? they are exactly what i want!.
beutiful wood also!, just the right look....
20 January 2009, 20:37
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by butchlambert:
Craigster, I suppose that you can do anything if you try. Doing it that way will not come close to the quality of a CZ. I would use the Argentine as Terry has on his beautiful rifle.
Butch
I agree completlely.
21 January 2009, 20:32
akrangeTC1
Stunning.. What are Your Stock Dimension .. Where did you get that Wood..
Thanks,
AK
21 January 2009, 21:03
TC1LOP is 14" I would guess the drop to be around 1 3/4".
I got that wood from a guy that sells on eBay. He goes by the name DakotaCliff. He has a Hoenig (SP?) duplicator and a few patterns he sells copies of. I had my own pattern and contacted him for a side job. I had 2 stocks I wanted duplicated off the pattern and only one piece of wood. He said he had and extra piece of Claro walnut he was sure I would like so I bought it sight unseen for $400 and he threw in the duplication on that piece for free. I got an email when he was finished saying the wood turned out even nicer than he expected and I was in for a surprise.
Yea, Cliff is a class act

Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
22 January 2009, 00:14
Thomas Haglundquote:
Originally posted by TC1:
LOP is 14" I would guess the drop to be around 1 3/4".
I got that wood from a guy that sells on eBay. He goes by the name DakotaCliff. He has a Hoenig (SP?) duplicator and a few patterns he sells copies of. I had my own pattern and contacted him for a side job. I had 2 stocks I wanted duplicated off the pattern and only one piece of wood. He said he had and extra piece of Claro walnut he was sure I would like so I bought it sight unseen for $400 and he threw in the duplication on that piece for free. I got an email when he was finished saying the wood turned out even nicer than he expected and I was in for a surprise.
Yea, Cliff is a class act

Terry
Really nice gun and the wood that is one heck of a claro looks great
22 January 2009, 01:07
Don MarkeyTerry, how close was his duplicating? I've only got semi-inlets from his and was wondering how close he follows a pattern.
Don
22 January 2009, 01:37
TC1quote:
Originally posted by Don Markey:
Terry, how close was his duplicating? I've only got semi-inlets from his and was wondering how close he follows a pattern.
Don
All in all it was a great job. Almost a 1 to 1. Like with most duplications it was a little thicker on one side but nothing major, certainly nothing like his generic patterns. He leaves enough wood on those to build 2 stocks

Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
22 January 2009, 01:54
Don Markeyquote:
Originally posted by TC1:
quote:
Originally posted by Don Markey:
Terry, how close was his duplicating? I've only got semi-inlets from his and was wondering how close he follows a pattern.
Don
All in all it was a great job. Almost a 1 to 1. Like with most duplications it was a little thicker on one side but nothing major, certainly nothing like his generic patterns. He leaves enough wood on those to build 2 stocks

Terry
thanks Terry but I would have said 3 stocks!

, gives you lots of room for creativity though.
Don
22 January 2009, 02:16
TC1
BTW, the absalute best duplications I've ever got came from James Anderson and Shane Thompson.
Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
22 January 2009, 02:43
Don Markeyquote:
Originally posted by TC1:

BTW, the absalute best duplications I've ever got came from James Anderson and Shane Thompson.
Terry
I was planning on calling James or Ed Shulin anyway, I just like to know options. You never know when you might have to shift gears because someone is too busy to meet your turn around time.
Don
22 January 2009, 07:13
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