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Just got the info that the next WSM will be called the 325. It's actually the 338 as far as I can tell to date. Don't know why they went with 325 name instead of the 338 WSM. Ballistics appear to fall between and 300 Win Mag and the 338 Win mag. | ||
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Sniper, They beat that topic to death on the medium bore forum last week. Should be some good information there. Plenty of invective and name calling to. I dunno, I haven't ever gotten on the WSM bandwagon, and I've never had an irresistable desire to own an 8mm, so I probably am not going to buy one. JCN | |||
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Sniper, in case you didn't catch it, it's 8mm. So, yeah, between the 300 and 338 Win Mag, at least with light-med weight bullets. | |||
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would have loved a 358 or a 9,3 (366).... 8mm? LMFAO take an 8x57 run in a 338 reamer throat it feedrails and boltface it's the 8 PPM short!! jeffe | |||
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<allen day> |
I guess I'm showing my 47 years, but the value of the WSMs is largely lost on me. The old .25-06 seems more practical to me than the .25 WSSM, and the .338 Win. Mag. should do more jobs better than the .325 WSM. AD | ||
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yawn..... we have a bunch of perfectly good cartridges.....called the .30-06, the .338 mag, the .300 Win Mag, the .270 Winchester, the 7MM Mag..... and now Winchester needs another 8MM lesson????? Am I missing something here?.....I doubt it. | |||
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Hell, I'll buy one. I like 8mm's. If all the world needed was practical calibers, we might have stopped development years ago with the invention of such calibers as the 30-06, .375 H&H, and .338 Win Mag... And how exciting would that be? | |||
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see: http://www.westernhunter.com/Pages/Vol06Issue07/325wsm.html Text from the link above:< !--color--> When Winchester introduced the 300 Winchester Short Magnum cartridge in 2000, shooters and hunters quickly began debating which calibers would be added to the line. Some speculated smaller calibers would be added while others thought increasing the size of the caliber was the way to go. In 2001, Winchester announced the addition of the 270 and 7 mm calibers to the WSM line; two choices that have both been very popular with hunters and shooters. In 2002, most shooters and hunters expected Winchester to add a larger caliber to the WSM line and the popular guess was 338. However, Winchester along with Browning and Winchester Firearms surprised the shooting public with the introduction of two Winchester Super Short Magnums, the 223 and 243. Here was a totally new concept in commercially available ammunition. The "short-fat" cartridges were designed to work with new Super Short action rifles from Browning and Winchester Firearms. Then in 2003, a 25 caliber load was added to the WSSM line. Shooters and hunters who like bigger bore rifles for large game hunting are expecting Winchester and Browning and Winchester Firearms to finally make the move to bigger bullets in the WSM line for 2005. They are right, but they may be surprised. Winchester recognized the need for a cartridge capable of launching 200 plus grain bullets with high inherent accuracy, energy capable of stopping the largest North American game, and lower perceived recoil. Winchester engineers considered several different calibers during development and determined that the 325 caliber was the best performer in the WSM platform. This new cartridge delivers similar energies as a 338 Win-Mag in a much smaller lightweight package. The platform of the "Short-Fat" cartridge design has for years consistently produced very accurate cartridges. Since their introduction, the Winchester Short Magnum and the Winchester Super Short Magnum calibers have all produced exceptional accuracy. In addition to delivering excellent ballistics, the 325 WSM also exhibits exceptional accuracy, a real plus in this large caliber cartridge. Initially, three loads will be available in the 325 WSM. Winchester Ammunition and Nosler, Inc. developed a 200 gr. Accubond� CT� in the Supreme� line and in the Super-X� line, Winchester Ammunition developed a 220 gr. Power-Point� bullet. Both of these loads utilize bullets specifically designed for use in the 325 WSM. Additionally, a 180 gr. Ballistic Silvertip� in the Supreme� line will be available. Additional loads are expected in the future. The 325 WSM is the ideal package for the serious elk, bear, moose or other large and dangerous game hunter where a lightweight short magnum rifle is desired. The Winchester 325 WSM will be available in early 2005. | |||
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Yes. The question "do we need it?" keeps coming up. It would be amusing to see this attitude played out in other arenas of life. Waiter: Tonight we have a grilled Ahi with a port wine reduction, served with saffron rice and asparagus. Customer: But, you already have the fish tacos, the fried catfish and the mahi mahi kabobs! What was wrong with them?! | |||
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<eldeguello> |
Quote: I could not agree MORE!! OOPS!! I forgot one factor! The WSM's etc., have provided something new for the gun companies' marketing folks to sell us, thus keeping gun companies in business a couple more years. So I guess the things Do have a use, after all. | ||
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