How is the bolt made on a Kimber 84 M? I looked at one as close as I could today and the lug area is blued, the bolt body looks centerless ground and the handle seems investment cast?
I wonder if there is any brazing involved with the lug section or bolt handle?
The bolt works rather rough. This is not a slick action at all! The safety is on the bolt shroud like a 70 but is only two position and does not lock the bolt handle. This rifle in the "classic" style is $799 over the counter.
Savage 99 It seems like I remember reading that they were investment cast receivers. But by no means hold me to that. Like you, I have noticed every one feels like they have sand in them. On the other hand I think they have some of the best wood of any factory rifle. Fit and finish of the wood is better than most any factory rifle on the shelves these days. Also I have noticed on almost every one I have seen that the floor plate hinges to far forward and leaves indentions in the wood. They should try and do something about that.
Shawn
Posts: 773 | Location: Louisiana | Registered: 31 May 2002
quote:Its not slick because the tolerances are so tight
Tolerances don`t have to relate to roughness or binding. Try a high grade overunder or side x side for smoothness or a custom built 1911.
Tolerance is how close to a set measurment a part is built re: (1" with +/- .002" tolerance)It doesn`t mean that the given dimention is a tight or loose fit, just that it falls in the tolerances allowed. It is possible for a tight dimentioned action to be sloopy or tight depending on the engineers idea of how it should fit.
I`m not knocking the M84, I own one in 260. Mine was a binding and gritty -not sand filled but gravel!!- action when I bought it. I sent it back to be smoothed up and it`s a lot better now but, it still needs to be smoothed up some more. With such a great looking, accurate little gun I think they are worth the $$ but I agree with the other posts that it would be nice if they took more time smoothing them up.
Posts: 2535 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 20 January 2001
Tell me more about your M 84 in 260. How is the trigger and is it adjustable? How accurate is the rifle and anything else that comes to mind.
I am thinking of trying one. It's a lot less $$$ than a NULA and about as small. I could slick the action myself but I want to start with something that has a solid foundation.
Its not slick because the tolerances are so tight. For a mauser, its a very tight bolt to reciever fit.
So, to slick them up, you have to cycle 'em a couple hundred times with diamond dust, just like they did with the Mannlicher-Schoenauers to get them the way they had to be before acceptance??
For those who will not get to read it Joe said that the rifle is excellent with some three shot groups less than one moa. The bolt is rough as it comes as all agree.
I may order one tommorrow if I can get one out of stock. I am waiting on too much other stuff already.
Savage 99, The bolt handle on the Kimber 84 is machined from bar stock. The bolt is also completely machined from bar stock and the bolt handle is threaded on. There is no brazing involved at all.
Also, the receivers are machined from sold bar stock, not investment cast.
The newer models have been slickened up quite a bit.
Good shooting, Headache
Posts: 158 | Location: Danbury, CT 06810 USA | Registered: 25 March 2002
The 84M that's rough came in last year I am told. I just looked at a 308 84M Classic that's current and the bolt operated rather well. Nothing like the older one.
Right now the best I can get for pricing is $819 from one dealer and for one with bases $850 from another. It seems like there is plenty of stock right now in Yonkers. My guess is that the rush is off on this standard wood stocked model and some are looking forward to the SS "Montana" due out soon. Then there is also an 8400 cataloged in the WSM's.
quote:Originally posted by Headache: Savage 99, The bolt handle on the Kimber 84 is machined from bar stock. The bolt is also completely machined from bar stock and the bolt handle is threaded on. There is no brazing involved at all.
Also, the receivers are machined from sold bar stock, not investment cast.
The newer models have been slickened up quite a bit.
Good shooting, Headache
How you doing Pete? Nice to see you joined the forum. You'll be seeing a PM soon.
A friend of mine just purchased an 84m in 7-08. Went to the range the first time and found that the bolt travel is very rough when opening an closing, and it won't feed. The round fails to slide completely into the extractor/boltface and jams when attempting to close bolt. Any others experience this feeding problem? Dr. Lou
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Posts: 3316 | Location: USA | Registered: 15 November 2001
I was in Los Anchorage over the weekend and finally got to handle an 84M, at Mountainview Sports. The example I got to play with was pretty smooth in operation, but it showed the wear signs of having been racked quite a few times. The stock quality and configuration were outstanding, so much so that I'm very seriously considering one of the lefty 8400's in 7WSM, and I'm not a fan of the new short magnums.
The gun simply handled superbly, best factory rifle I've ever hefted by far.
I'd appreciate any info anyone has on the 8400M's feeding reliability. I don't think they're available quite yet, but I could be wrong. Also, does anyone have any light load data for the 7mm WSM, something approximating 7x57/7-08 loads?
Any starting load for 4895 or 3031 should work fine with any bullet in a light 7mm WSM load.
If I had checked out the Kimbers a little better I would not have ordered the M1999's.
The new Kimber 84 M "Montana" will go 5 lbs, 2 oz and have CRF,all SS, pillar bedding, glass bedding and they say a air gaged barrel with a match chamber. The stock will be kevlar/carbon fibre all for $950.
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