18 December 2019, 01:58
ozark hunterCould traditional claw mounts be mounted this way
Came across Ziegler mount system, but they are not available to the US. Makes a lot of sense to switch the bases to all for larger objective scopes. Could traditional claw mounts be installed in such a way (backwards) to act as the Zieglers. Here is a link to their installation video. it is pretty slick how scopes can be switched. Thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gP9M4Ka_V418 December 2019, 05:07
sambarman338Seems pretty neat. I notice he didn't even need to close or remove the bolt to tip the scope back and off.
18 December 2019, 08:05
dpcdHere is one reason not to do what you suggest. If you reverse the front and rear bases you will also reverse the direction that the latch mechanism works, IE, it will now release by moving Forward instead of the usual Backward.
What this will do is, release itself under recoil and your scope will fly back and conk you in the head.
Worse case.
Another consideration is that you would need blank bases to fit a receiver; notice that his were dovetailed for a rib.
OTOH, I might try it anyway.
18 December 2019, 11:40
metalThere was a custom gunmaker posting on AR a while back that was doing reverse claw mounts.
Can't remember who he was but he said they work fine.
18 December 2019, 21:49
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)I've a pretty solid background in claw mounts...and dpcd is right. This "backwards" system has been introduced and re introduced countless times over the last 40 years that I know of.
It most likely will hold up under lighter recoil, but being useful for dangerous game, the claw system comes into it own on heavy hitters.
The system is not cheap..might as well do it right in the first place
19 December 2019, 00:30
AtkinsonYep, its been tried before, not good on big bores and I would feel comfortable on a 30-06..
Claws are the best mounting system IMO, but do it right..and I do like fitted bases of any mount system..As I see it, the dealer has one backwards and the other frontwards so they work against each other to maintain their integrity, maybe! ?????
19 December 2019, 13:41
Heym SR20Irwin, who is in the video is a German trained gunsmith working with Alan Rhone here in the UK.
With the Zeigler mount, if fitted properly, you have a very strong mount with all the recoil forces taken on the front edge of rings. Remember that a scope moves forward under recoil.
The Latch is pulled rearward to unlock, so under recoil actually tightens.
If you were installing a traditional claw mount in the same way you would need to make sure that the latch is turnaround so that it opens to the rear.
19 December 2019, 21:13
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)The recoil should be taken up by closely fitting, robust hooks as in the original concept...the latch could be a strong rubber band. It's only function is alignment and to hold the scope against the foot.