16 April 2006, 08:44
333_OKHBearcoat DuPont Teflon-S " Satin Black
Has anyone had experience with this coating and with this company? They describe the satin black coating as:
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This Premium finish has a slight sheen to it and looks similar to blueing. Best suited for pistols and machineguns. Has a slight charcoal tint to it and is very similar to the original HK baked epoxy finish .
16 April 2006, 17:50
jimmyd223333, I have seen two styles done by bearcoat. one was a tiger striped camo job and one the solid black.
Both were 100% cool and very well done. The black finish looks almost to me like the old black chrome, very deep looking. Both finishes held up very well over the couple of years I was around these guns.
16 April 2006, 19:48
333_OKHI am just curious. I am not looking for a synthetic finish that is a match to bluing, but one that does not look too much like plastic. The Les Baer pistol above looks pretty nice.
16 April 2006, 20:26
jimmyd223333, not sure what your trying to say. Plastic look.
The black finish is going to be a very high gloss deep black finish. As I said same as a black chrome. Very rich looking and durable.
Is this a finish you are looking at for your custom project?
16 April 2006, 23:46
Rick 0311I have a .45 pistol done by Wilson Combat and their finishes are exceptionally durable and really nice looking.
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/info_armor_tuff.htm17 April 2006, 01:03
333_OKHquote:
Is this a finish you are looking at for your custom project?
Maybe? I often hunt in very wet conditions for 1-2 weeks at a time and keeping the rust down in the rifle can be a problem. I have heard a good rust blue works well, but I also was thinking strongly at what new technology has to offer. I am a traditionalist, but a few modern ideas in the rifle are okay.
Rick0311--I just looked at what Wilson has to offer too. They look similar, but what is it made of. The Bearcoat is Teflon, but the Wilson say ceramic right? The Wilson requires a military finish first for the ceramic to bond with...interesting.
17 April 2006, 01:30
Rick 0311quote:
Originally posted by 333_OKH:
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Is this a finish you are looking at for your custom project?
Maybe? I often hunt in very wet conditions for 1-2 weeks at a time and keeping the rust down in the rifle can be a problem. I have heard a good rust blue works well, but I also was thinking strongly at what new technology has to offer. I am a traditionalist, but a few modern ideas in the rifle are okay.
Rick0311--I just looked at what Wilson has to offer too. They look similar, but what is it made of. The Bearcoat is Teflon, but the Wilson say ceramic right? The Wilson requires a military finish first for the ceramic to bond with...interesting.
Wilson’s Armor-Tuff does indeed start with the weapon being blasted then parkerized.
All I can tell you from first hand experience with it on my pistol is that it is about the toughest finish I have ever seen. I also have several rifles coated with Robar’s Rogard finish and the Wilson finish is ALLOT tougher.
It all depends on what you are expecting things to look like and what types of protection and lubricity you’re looking for. Almost all of these new finishes include some type of built in lubricating properties, and so does Wilson’s.
Whether it is “better†than the other one you mentioned I have no idea since “better†is a subjective term that means different things to different people.
If you are worried about rust protection read Wilsons info. Their finish withstands and passes the tests that equate to being submersed for 1000 hours in salt water...and sprayed for 1000 hours with salt water. That’s probably a bit more than you will run into on most hunting trips!

27 April 2006, 07:47
333_OKHquote:
It all depends on what you are expecting things to look like and what types of protection and lubricity you’re looking for. Almost all of these new finishes include some type of built in lubricating properties, and so does Wilson’s.
Whether it is “better†than the other one you mentioned I have no idea since “better†is a subjective term that means different things to different people.
If you are worried about rust protection read Wilsons info. Their finish withstands and passes the tests that equate to being submersed for 1000 hours in salt water...and sprayed for 1000 hours with salt water. That’s probably a bit more than you will run into on most hunting trips!
I guess it gets down to how protected one really needs to be. this rifle will be in a wood stock. Sorry guys, I tried to go composite on a 22-250 rifle and I hate it!
I will make sure the wood it treated to withstand as much water as possible, but more its the salt in the air on our ranch near the ocean that I hunt.
Who from these companies would you use?
Wilson Armor TuffRobar's Rogaurd/NP3NIC Industries-CerakoteCasidiam-Carbon CoatingBearcoat-Industrial TeflonArmoloy of Texas