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What are the regulations if you are unhappy with a firearm/rifle after the inspection period and want to return it to the seller. In this case a gun store. I am getting the run a round from UPS and my local post office is trying to help but this is new ground for them. Will I have these same difficulties when shipping to a gunsmith? I sent a shotgun to Cole Guns in Maine a few years back {after 911} and did not run in to the road block from UPS.

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Posts: 102 | Location: Florida | Registered: 04 April 2006Reply With Quote
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As long as the party you are shipping the rifle to holds a valid FFL, you can legally ship it to them. I can't believe shipping a firearm is "new ground" for your post office. Well, on second thought, can I believe it. The post office has a book of regulations, someone in the post office can easily find the regulations (if they want to). Hmm, maybe the Postmaster? Ya think?
 
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I agree but if they don't want help your stuck. UPS will ship it if I drive 40 miles one way to their center to drop off the package. Some excuss about a computer generated label. I ask why couldn't the driver bring it when the box is pick up. I believe that is what happen when I ship a gun to Coles. No impossible. Might fall in to the wrong hands while I am handing the driver the box and the label is being attached. She was very polite.
 
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The USPS can ship long guns. I usually take the barreled action out of the stock, wrap that and the stock seperately and then put them both in a box with plenty of shipping peanuts for pad. If a person/company can leagally recieve a long gun, then it is legal for you to ship it to them. Most of the time postal workers don't know it is OK to ship a long gun.


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You can go to UPS.com and open your own account. The shipping gets charged to credit card, you print your own label and schedule a pick up at your address.
 
Posts: 2036 | Location: Roebling, NJ 08554 | Registered: 20 January 2002Reply With Quote
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I have had the same experience here in Dallas. I had to drive across town bypassing several UPS stores on the way. It's just the way it is. Your only other option is to get someone with an FFL to do it for you.
 
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post office will do a better job much cheaper than UPS with long gun
 
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The post office doesn't ask you what's in the box, even when you insure it. It is prefectly legal even if the clerk doesn't know what's in the box.


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The post office doesn't ask you what's in the box, even when you insure it. It is prefectly legal even if the clerk doesn't know what's in the box.


If you have a simple "Ship when needed" account with UPS, they don't ask either. With USPS, unless you send it "registered", you won't be able to insure the package for more than $500.00.


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With USPS, unless you send it "registered", you won't be able to insure the package for more than $500.00.


Not true.. If I recall correctly the insurance limit is $8000 and has been for several years.


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FWIW - I've shipped rifles via USPS registered mail that were insured for over 20K and have not run into the 8K limit.


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With USPS, unless you send it "registered", you won't be able to insure the package for more than $500.00.


Not true.. If I recall correctly the insurance limit is $8000 and has been for several years.


Don't know what to tell you but I am only going by what my computer screen say's when linked to theirs. Using the "click and ship" w/insurance option for a priority package, a little box appears and say's $500.00 limit. They will insure it up to $25,000.00 if it is shipped "registered".

http://www.usps.com/insurance/welcome.htm

Okay, just back from the website. If you purchase the insurance on line, the limit is $500.00. If you purchase it at the counter, the limit is $5,000. Registered is still $25,000.00.


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Posts: 3171 | Location: SLC, Utah | Registered: 23 February 2007Reply With Quote
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Don't need to tell me anything. Wink

I retired from 32 years with the USPS in 2005. 19 1/2 of them as a window clerk, lead clerk, window trainer ,time keeper and finance technician in a level 22 1st class Post Office. I was the guy who translated the regulations for the Window Clerks. Unlike some P.O.s I insisted that my clerks did things correctly. And they did.

Registered mail can be insured for up to $25000 in cash value. For an additional fee per $1000 you can register for millions. The extra fee covers special handling and security, and in some extreme cases, if the indemnity is high enough, armed guards.

Standard insurance on any parcel is available up to $5000, not $8000 as I stated previously. I just verified it with my replacement at my old office.

I have encountered several discrepencies on the Postal web site. It happens when you have computer pilots doing things instead of the hands on people who should be doing it.


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Westpac,

It's possible that the USPS has a lower limit for items done via click n ship.

Their reasoning being for high value items they may want to "see" the package.


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Westpac,

It's possible that the USPS has a lower limit for items done via click n ship.

Their reasoning being for high value items they may want to "see" the package.


Thanks Mike. That's what I figured when I went back to look.


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