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I am rebarreling my favorite rifle and am down to these 2..I can get next day delivery on both the hart is $110 more than the walter but the walter is made in Georgia, which may not be that good an idea | ||
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If accuracy is your primary concern then the Hart would be my choice between those two. Walther would not make my top 10 list depending on caliber. I have a Walther 6.5mm barrel in my posession that has a reverse choke in it that I have not chambered. Walther likes to talk a good game but my experience tells me look elsewhere for top accuracy. You don't see many Walther barrels listed in the BR equipment lists either as far as winners go. | |||
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Tom, Hart makes stainless accuracy barrels, ant those that shoot them like them. I have used the Lothar-Walther chrome moly barrels in hunting rifles, and they shot for me. I would choose based on what you want the barrel *for*. jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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If you've narrowed the entire field of first class barrel makers down to these two, then why not just flip a coin? | |||
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actually they are the only 1's I can get less than 20 week delivery.. they are both in stock..This is just your basic deer rifle that's on it's 3rd barrel, 1" is just fine. | |||
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Tom, I had a hunting rifle re-barreled from .30/06 Sprg. to 9.3x62 Mauser using a Walther Lothar barrel and it is an absolute tack-driver. Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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Tom, You need to pick up the phone and call Woody at Lothar-Walther in GA.! He's a heck of a good guy and his products are excellant. I have two of his .423 barrels becoming 404 Jeffery rifles. Just spend some time on the phone with him! You won't regret the time spent! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Then you should buy an Adams&Bennet from Midway, just $69 | |||
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I also have a 9.3 LW barrel. It shoots great and does not foul with barnes triple shocks. | |||
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Whatever the barrel make is, competent installation of the the barrel is paramount. Accuracy will be determined buy the quailty of the thread fit to the action,concentricity of the theads and chamber to the bore. Neck and throat dimensions cut by the reamer and bore size vs bullet size. Bore finish is also a consideration. A rough bore will definately foul faster and then accuracy will go to hell, and then it will need to be cleaned in order to achieve its best accuracy again. I dial the bore in with gauge pins then thread and chamber in one setup. I've installed over 110 Kriegers about 15 Petersons, 6 Bill Wisemans, 22 lothars 1 Pac-nor, 1 Lilja, 10 duoglas, 5 shilen. They all are shooting .5 to an Inch three shots at 100. The lothar has THE BEST outside as delivered finish I've seen yet, They will shoot 1.0 and better. My 7x57 has a 22 inch lothar on it and it groups the Federal 140gr partition factory ammo into .700 at 100yds and I have a handload that cuts it to .500 at 100. The two whitetails I killed with it this year both got the top half of their hearts blown off buy a 140gr accubond from it, so yes, I do believe the lothar barrel did a fine job of delivering the deadly little pill on target at 150 yds each. Dialing in the bore works, end of story. Oh yea, don't forget about that loose nut behind the trigger, that can effect accuracy too. Timan | |||
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What length gauge pins are you using? | |||
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Tinman, From a conversation I had with Woodie at LW, I gathered that his barrels have some extra work already in them that would otherwise have to be done by the installing gunsmith. If I've understood correctly, would you mind explaining that? ( ) Jaywalker | |||
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The Lothar-Walther barrels are not made in Georgia to the best of my knowledge. I believe they are made in Germany by Lothar-Walther and shipped to Woody in Georgia at Lothar-Walther USA. As far as the extra work they do I believe even their CrMo barrels are hand lapped. Also the outside finish if you get a pre contoured barrel is second to none. It's actually ready for blueing right out of the box. I got their article 724 long chambered and pre-threaded for my mauser in 6.5x55 and it was beautiful. Z1R from here chambered it for me and it's deffinately a shooter. Jer Wherever you go, there you are. | |||
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After a couple times, I do not trust the 12" Buck Chuck 4 Jaw can hang on to the LW slick finish on blanks. I now rough up 4 spots for the gimbal shims to get traction. I can do the mirror finish on a CM barrel with 2000 grit paper. | |||
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I'd say the post with 110 kriegers installed,pretty much sums up who makes the best barrel to gamble on. I've talked with alot of good smiths who will install anything you want to pay for. However,when you ask them what they use,the majority will tell you krieger and if given the choice to pick a barrel for you it will be krieger. I talked to a smith yesterday,about building a custom 30/06. I kicked around differant barrels and all of the major ones came up. When kreiger was mentioned,the smith claimed it was the only barrel he's never had problems with and he figures he's installed over 500 kriegers alone. When the subject of accuracy came up,it was the typical true answer. In a hunting rifle you most likely won't see a bit of differance in any of them. | |||
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tom ga hunter,why not try both at the same time,compare them and tell us how it turned out. | |||
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went with Hart at gunsmith's advice, ordered from midway, it shouild be here today and on my rifle by the end of february..ofcourse who knows what year. | |||
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