if anybody thinks i'm going to send some of my old 40x's back - they'd better go back to law school

The trigger in my Rem 700VSSF spent a week sitting in heated acetone to get all the sealing resin off of it then hours in an acid etch bath and finally a carefully applied and heat bonded coating of Mo2S on all the parts. to get it working perfectly to my satisfaction...

They can't have it.

Nor can they have the identical tuned trigger on my "Beater" 30-06 which was prepared identically.

I check my trigger function before Each use of the rifle and I KNOW how to detect issues, nor have I ever gummer up the action with cheap lubes that gum things up...

The only reason for this pseudo recall is to protect people from ignorance and stupidity.

Ignorance about trigger function and adjustment and "stupidity" in incompetent adjustment and failure to observe proper gun safety protocol

LEt me be brutally honest, stories about someone having their rifle discharge unintentionally and killing their child (whatever the malfunction) also point to a clean and obvious failure of "Muzzle discipline" if the uzzle is pointed in a safe direction nobody is going to get shot, intentionally or otherwise.

PERIOD (No further contrary discussion of this is anything other than bullshit excuses for lapses in safety procedure

I've had---several---700s. My first at age 9. NEVER had a problem w/ the triggers in ANY of them. Remington is caving to the obama supporter mindset. Do things w/ ones head up his/her ass and blame someone for their own stupidity------to get $$ !
Big Green will never see any of mine.

FINALLY...after 50 odd years Remington has been brought to task...Remington's phuk-ed up trigger has NOTHING to do with Obama but it DOES have a lot to do with a mindless mindset.

I must be unlucky...I've had 4 Rems over the past 50 some years and only one had a trigger that wasn't trouble from the get-go and it was so rough it got replaced anyway...I could have fixed it but it still would have been suspect and untrustworthy.

Two would slam release with not much of a slam and one would release just by closing the bolt...OUT OF THE BOX.

I sent the one that would release by closing the bolt back to Rem and it came back with a pull of about 10 lbs.

It took me less time to replace those untrustworthy triggers with a Canjar, two Timneys and a Jard than it took Allan to write his tome.

Allan and T.K might be the greatest, safest persons with a shooter that came down the Pike and he/they are/might be right about some of what they said...BUT...this ISN'T ABOUT BEING A GREAT, SAFE RIFLEMAN, it's about a trigger that had issues that needed addressed and REMINGTON spent 50 odd years fighting it in court to keep from paying.

The last "lawyered up" Rem rifle I bought had a trigger so messed up I didn't bother trying to adjust or stroke it, I just put a Jard trigger in it, lightly stoned the machining marks, set it to ~16 oz and started load workup.

For the last 50 years gunsmiths have done a good trade in working over Rem triggers and after market produces supplying many excellent trigger replacements...and MANY Rem rifle have came off the line with triggers that were perfectly usable as is, but it only take ONE accidental death for ANY REASON to make PRODUCT RELIABILITY AN ISSUE.

This is one good reason for the internet... NOTHING of any importance can get by without being "hidden" as much of the legalities surrounding the "Remington trigger" has been.

I've read about this legal action in the American Rifleman and other shooting magazines for as long as I can remember, but VERY LITTLE outside shooting circles...now you can get the full story just by doing a little "finger walking" on a keyboard...problem is unless you've had a problem with a Rem trigger or was informed by other means, NO ONE BOTHERS.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO SEND YOUR RIFLE IN IF YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH YOUR PRESENT TRIGGER, but at least now SOME have recourse if they chose to use it...THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE...RECLOURSE is now available.

This is no different than recalls on vehicles or other items with safety issues and if you can't see that then you're BLIND...

No flame or diss intended...I can write a tome also...

I must have been very lucky as I have owned at least ten Model 700s and 78s since the mid 1960s. None have had any trigger issues whatever. I have none made in the last ten years though.

If the reference was meant for me, I never wrote that it had anything to do w/ obama. I used the term obama supporters as a reference to mindless idiots doing stupid things and blaming others in an effort to get money (as Jackson does).
If the recall makes you feel better, ok.

I had a friends mod 700 30-06 fire when the safety was moved. I moved the safety to be able to open the bolt to check that it was not loaded. FINGER WAS NOT ON TRIGGER. Rifle was pointed in a safe direction. Safety issue? Why hell yes. I related this to my late gunsmith friend and he confirmed several years ago there is an issue with Remington safeties and triggers----he said it was an easy fix. I did have one mod 700 and sold it to a friend, so I am interested in this now so I can keep him updated.

I've handled and tested dozens of M700's and yet to experience this issue. However, I have inspected many with copious amounts of dirt and hardened lube/sealant to make me believe it could happen. The sear engagement observation hole on the left side of the trigger group is the prime culprit. It is valuable when observing engagement while adjusting the trigger, but provides a ready entry point for foreign material into the shoe/sear area. When properly cleaned and adjusted, these are some awesome triggers.

I've seen it once, on a 721 that was bought used in the middle 1960s. I have a newish 700 now that has not done it.
My concern it that a replacement trigger might be stiff as a board...

Unless there's a hidden recall notice, Remington is NOT recalling all 700s; CNBC's report is erroneous.

Remington has spent billions in out of court settlements. Those triggers by design have had a lot of problems some resulting in death it appears..

A really good book to read is Unsafe by Design by Jack Belk (Amazon). Forensic Gunsmithing and Firearms Accident Invesitgations.

Goes deeply into all firearms design with an emphasis on safety and why some guns are safer than others by design.

Only one problem with Jack Belk and Remington. Jack's theories are full of holes.

Jack readily admitted in testimony he can't get a remington trigger to fail unless he inserts a foreign object into the mechanism and that he has never been able to to get the subject rifle of an accident to repeat what the plaintiff said it did.

Belk? Really?

I have owned probably 30 700s and still own 10 or 12...... Never once have I had a problem. Not once.

The "Walker" trigger is a damn fine trigger!


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