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German book on actions - title?

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08 January 2009, 23:02
Pfeifer
German book on actions - title?
Hi All,
I remember seeing a post a few years back on a German book on action geometries. My daughter just happens to be studying in Germany this year so wanted to see if she could round up a copy for me.

Anyone have any info on this book - title, publisher, where I might find one, etc.? I thought I had saved a link to it but have come up empty handed.

Thanks again,
Jeff Pfeifer
09 January 2009, 07:09
Pfeifer
I see alot of views on this but only one PM.

Not sure what more I can add to this admittedly ambiguous description. I remember geometrical drawings of various actions with angles and formulas / calculations and it was a pretty expensive book. Was definitely a buchsenmachermeister's / gunsmith's book. Hoping that when our continental folks are online one of them might know. Thought I'd try and find a copy before they crystallize into gold - like Alexander Gray's The Hammerless Double Rifle Wink

Shot an email to the German Gun Collector's Assoc in the meantime as PM recommended.

Thanks again - Jeff P
09 January 2009, 11:14
Tommyhawk
It sounds like you are looking for "JAGD-WAFFEN-
KUNDE" by Willi Berthold. It is copyrighted by
VEB Verlag Technik, Berlin, 1969.
Best wishes in your search.
09 January 2009, 18:10
Recoil Rob
The same type of information, for bolt actions only, is available in Stuart Otteson's THE BOLT ACTIONS, vol. 1&2.
09 January 2009, 23:17
Pfeifer
Thanks Tommyhawk and Rob! I will look for that title then and see what we can find. I do have Otteson's books too.

Do you know what action types are covered in the Berthold book? Was thinking that the side x side actions were in there but wondering what else since I've never had a copy of this book in hand to look over...

Also wondering if there is an ISBN number on this book?

Thanks,
Jeff P
10 January 2009, 01:02
Pfeifer
Looks like Klups wrote a book last year with that same name Jagdwaffenkunde - ISBN 978-3-440-11073-7... Suspect it is not a rerelease but don't know for sure...
I will keep looking...
Jeff P
Jagdwaffenkunde
10 January 2009, 02:44
Pfeifer
Well I think I found it... was Barthold with an "a" in this case... Is this it? 1979 & 1988 dates were also found.


10 January 2009, 10:30
Tommyhawk
That's it. Sorry about the spelling. 'Barthold'
Excellent technical book on sxs, o-u, and combination guns. German text.