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I have rebuilt an old H&H rifle and also made a brass bound leather case to it. The only thing that is missing is a H&H leather trade label to glue on the inside of the lid. I have been in contact with Mr Peter Dyson in England and Connecticut Shotgun in US but without success. The correct design is as of the link below. http://www.drake.net/VMR27axl.jpg

Anyone with an idea of where to find one?

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Try Marvin (?) Huey of Huey Guncases. He has a website but it might take some searching to find it. Very nice person from the couple of e-mails I have gone back and forth on with him. see if he has a lead for you.

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Make your own. The pic you posted is pretty high resolution.

E-mail it to a print shop and have them print it out on card stock with a color laser printer.

I'm sure with a little experimentation on card type and thickness you could make a near perfect replica of the original.

Good Luck


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Try http://www.jeffsoutfitters.com. I think he was the one that bought all of the old Cape Outfitters stock. Cape Outfitters used to offer some really nice reproduction labels for a lot of the major British makers. I have also seen him under the website http://www.jeffmayfield.com. I don't know if he still offers these labels, but it might be worth a call to see if he still has any from the old Cape Outfitters stock.
 
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Gentlemen, thank you for your interest.

I phoned Huey Guncases and they gave me the number to their "labelmaker" who was a guy in NY. Unfortunately I hav not reached him yet but i will try again another day. Perhaps my leather case gets complete after all...

Thanks again
Martin
 
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Martin,
Try John Saunders at http://www.centuryarms.com.au he should have what you want.

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In the U.S. gun paper "GUN List" there is a gentleman who advertises these trade labels. He is from East Meadow, NY. I'm unable to find his listing in the Gun List I have, maybe someone else might locate his advertisement?
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In the U.S. gun paper "GUN List" there is a gentleman who advertises these trade labels. He is from East Meadow, NY. I'm unable to find his listing in the Gun List I have, maybe someone else might locate his advertisement?
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I talked to the gentleman in East Medow NY five minutes ago! It is the same gentleman that Hues Guncases recomended(above). A real nice man who has a stock of more than 400 different labels, including the one I am looking for!

Martin
 
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Bob
I talked to the gentleman in East Medow NY five minutes ago! It is the same gentleman that Hues Guncases recomended(above). A real nice man who has a stock of more than 400 different labels, including the one I am looking for!

Martin


Martin

Could you post the contact info?
 
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I talked to the gentleman in East Medow NY five minutes ago! It is the same gentleman that Hues Guncases recomended(above). A real nice man who has a stock of more than 400 different labels, including the one I am looking for!

Martin


Martin

Could you post the contact info?


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Check your message box.
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got it and thanks.
 
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Martin, could you share the information with the rest of us?.
Good luck!
 
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Martin, could you share the information with the rest of us?.
Good luck!



Mr Mike Messina East Medow NY
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In 1959 I passed thru London on honeymoon and bought a cased H&H Norwegian 6.5mm Krag. The rifle was in wonderful shape but the inside of the case was motheaten and the partitions were shattered. It did not impress me and I sold the case for ten or fifteen bucks to a collector in CT. I stole the big paper H&H label to case up a double hammerless H&H .500 BP rifle, adapting a rook rifle case by standing the barrels on edge. Maybe fifteen years ago I asked my friend in CT if he still had the old case. He said "maybe it is in the lifeboat". He had a huge WWII steel lifeboat, with a propellor worked by levers pumped by survivors, in his factory that he always wanted to make into a yacht. Meanwhile he kept stuff in it. He looked, found it, and I bought it back. To drop names, I was taken to dinner at an Atlanta SHOT show by Bill Ruger and met the manager of H&H. I wrote him and asked if they had an old case with one of their circa 1900 trade labels - the Krag was made at STeyr in 1896. He wrote back that alas they had no originals but they were printing "an excellent fake" and he sent me one, same size and design as the long lost original. I took the beat up case, the new fake label, and the Krag to Mr. Messina, previously mentioned here, and he did a wonderful job of restoring the case. Luckily I had acquired an H&H marked pewter oil bottle somewhere along the line. I also found an H&H cocking piece sight and had this fitted by Mark Silver, one of our gunsmithing geniuses who specializes in replicating H&H rifles. While all this was going on the double rifle with the original label showed up at a dealer in, as I recall, one of the Carolinas. I wrote and offered a couple hundred for it and got a reply that he would sell me the label for $5000 and throw in a nice cased .500 H&H double BP rifle. I did not take him up on it. So that is my H&H label story. The rifle is of course a wonderful thing and overall the nicest Krag sporter I know of, even more impressive than Townsend Whelen's Fred Adolph which I also am lucky enough to own.
 
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vigillinus,

That is a great story within a story within a story . . . . Big Grin

I love the old Krag carbines and sporters. You wouldn't happen to have any photos of yours that you could post, would you?


Mike

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mrlexma gotta learn how to work a digital camera beyond my skill & wisdom level at present I may be too old to learn
 
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Yes I would love to see pics as well, great yarn !!
 
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