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My son recently took my old Savage .220 to the range.He is new to handloading and was trying out some rounds.
I don't know if he had a bad shell or if he threw a handful of sand in the chamber,but he has a live round stuck in the rifle.Him and his friends tried to nullify the problem by tapping the bolt back with some object.The extractor broke.This is an easy cheap fix.
When they couldn't get the cartridge out,they tried pecking it out with a cleaning rod,which is now stuck about 9 inches into the barrel. Roll Eyes
I'm now going to remove the barrel and I need some advice.
The back of the cartridge is sticking about a half inch out of the chamber.I believe if I remove the barrel, I can twist or tear the back of the cartridge off.I have several stuck cartridge tools to use in removing the case.
I see Brownell's has a Savage barrel wrench that fits both new and old barrel nuts.It looks to be stamped steel.
Do these work? Is there a machined wrench for sale out there?
I'm not much of a 'Smith as you can tell.About the only experience I have had is building a 1911 out of parts.
I'm not too worried about the barrel or chamber being damaged for I can replace it.


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Posts: 5567 | Location: charleston,west virginia | Registered: 21 October 2003Reply With Quote
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It sounds like you are on the right track. Be careful when wrenching on that stuck case. I would put the barrel in a vise, breach end up and spray the whole thing with copious quantities of WD-40 and let it sit for several days. With any luck, it will seep into the primer pocket and kill the primer. If you don't, you run the risk of setting that primer/charge off wreaking all kinds of havoc in your shop.


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My Advise ! Take it to a COMPITENT GUNSMITH ! Before someone is seriously injured , Or worse !
 
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Poltax:

If your Savage Barrel has never veen off before I suggest you use a real barrel vice, real action wrench and a high quality barrel nut wrench. The first removal can be a bugar bear.

I suggest you take two pieces of 3" X 1" X .250 flat steel stock. Drill two identical .375 holes .500 from the ends. Drill a .625 hole in one piece of the stock in the middle. In the other piece of stock drill a hole just big enough for the case head to pass therough off set from the center one direction or the other. Then cut/mill out a section about .375 wide for about .500. Now you can take a pair of parallel cutters and crush the case in enough to slide the two piece of stock over the end of the stuck case. slide the enlongated piece so as the holes line up. Insert .375 bolts in the holes. The top piece of stock should be threaded the bottom piece of stock should not be threaded. Put two nuts on the bolts between the stock. Use the top piece of stock as a puller to remove the stuck case. I know this is clear as mud. Another option is if the case is sticking out enough to use a pipe cutter to remove the head. Getting rid of the primed head and powder. Then use a standard stuck case remover.
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Since you say you are not much of a smith. I would suggest you save yourself some potential issues and just take it to a smith. Even with the nut wrench you run the risk of twisting the action depending on how you hold it. Plus you have a live shell.

Tell your son in the future that if the shell doesn't go in easy don't force. Trying to force a shell into the chamber is not the time to get a bigger hammer.


As usual just my $.02
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Tell you son in the future that if the shell doesn't go in easy don't force. Trying to force a shell into the chamber is not the time to get a bigger hammer.

Compared to the Ass-Chewin' he got(and is still gettin')the above advice is soft. Smiler
The cartridge has been soaking in WD-40 since last Friday.I believe it can be safely removed.
I'm gonna look at a few sights for info on receiver vises.
I want to do this myself.It keeps me outta the Pool Halls. Wink


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I suggest you purchase a "stuck case puller" from Brownells. Its a slide hammer with a collet that fits over the rim of the stuck case. I have one that realy saved the day. I found that if you put the barreled action in the freezer over night it helps shrink the brass a bit and makes the removel a snap.


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Buy the Wheeler wrench, it will fit the older models and is plenty stout to do its job. It comes with instructions. You can make a passable barrel vice out of two wooden blocks and a heavy machinist vice if you're at all handy (10 min). I'd pull the barrel, drill a small hole in the exposed side of the case (well away from the primer) and squirt in as much Kroil/WD as it will take and set the barrel muzzle up long enough to really soak the primer. Cut off the case head with a hacksaw (still be careful of the primer) and work the case out of the chamber carefully (mangling as necessary). If Jr. managed to somehow bugger the chamber you'll want to replace the barrel anyway. BTW I just received a Adams and Bennett 22-250 Ackley barrel for a Savage yesterday, fully blued and the bore looks great--on clearance from Midway for all of $75. Spin it on, set headspace, and you're off and running.


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With all due respect to others, I would think long and hard before I started cutting and/or drilling on a live round. In the situation described there is not only a stuck round but a stuck cleaning rod down the bore and if the cutting and/or drilling lit something off you could have quite a violent encounter on your hands. 90% of the time WD-40 will penetrate into the case and deactivate the primer/powder...but are you willing to risk being in the other 10%?
 
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