This year I bought 4 Mod. 200 Stevens rifles, three of which were intended to be used in doing the quick change barrel thing.

The quick change was pushed back a little while I enjoyably reworked the rough triggers and shot the rifles in their suppllied cartridges as they were quite accurate out of the box.

Anyway the Shaw barrels I had made sat.

After reading a number of instructions on the ease of barrel change I proceded to put my barrel vise and New wrench to work and work and work. It didn't, even with an assist from my action wrench. As suggested in a number of instructions I applied the large rubber mallet to the wrench---NADA. Under the assumtion that perhaps a sharp blow would be better than the rubber hammers cushioned blow a large ball peen was put to use. All it did was seriously peen the edge of the wrench. The Barrel nut is still in place.

I did succeed in marring my .243 barrel in a number of places and slightly rub some bluing off the action. Put some penetrating on it and there it now sits.

I have had greater luck changing reluctant Mauser barrels that have been attached to their actions for 90 years or more.

Is their any good advice out there? Would a Propane torch help? At this point I am totally frustrated. roger

heat it up a bit????

Wow Roger, I've changed three Savage factory barrels and never had any problems a 2 Lb dead blow hammer couldn't take off easily.

Try the Kroil and if that doesn't work heat the nut up a couple of hundred degrees.

The Factory torques the barrels way too much. After you get it changed, it only needs about 35 Ft-Lbs of torque on the barrel nut.

Roger -

I'd apply some heat like Fjold said, but I wouldn't use a propane torch which is what you asked about applying.

I'd use an electric heat gun such as is used for melting glue, stripping paint, etc. Much easier to not overheat the metal when doing it that way, plus no danger of burning carbon out of it by accidentally hitting the metal with a mildly oxidizing flame tip.

There are all kinds of personal preferences for barrel torque. I use very little...I just screw the barrel in (or the barrel nut on, with Savages) hand-tight. Then I give a moderate little "snap" of the barrel or barrel nut wrench just as the barrel or nut makes firm contact with the receiver. That's it, for me. Takes only an equal "snap" to change the barrel out when you decide to do that some time in the future. Works very well accuracy wise on my benchrest guns. I can't see why it wouldn't do just as well on hunting rigs. Matter of fact, that's how I do my personal hunting rigs, too. Less "stress" at the joint can't hurt as long as it is tight enough to keep the relationship of the barrel/receiver consistant.

Frank and AC -THANK YOU ! I'll go out and get one of the high temp blowers and kroil. roger

Use any good penetrating oil, soak for several days, then use a woman's hair dryer. I've had to do this with several of the new Savage/Stevens rifles. Seems like there is some sort of thread locker on the barrel threads.

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Originally posted by prof242:
Use any good penetrating oil, soak for several days, then use a woman's hair dryer. I've had to do this with several of the new Savage/Stevens rifles. Seems like there is some sort of thread locker on the barrel threads.

And a big thank you also. roger

I've broke the factory installed barrels off by putting the barrel in the vise ahead of the nut, and using the action wrench to unscrew it from the barrel just like any other rifle....

Just want to mention that when taking off the nut make sure you are unscrewing not tighening!
Conventionaly, we put barrel in vice and action wrench on receiver, and turn counter clockwise, however, with the Savage, when we put nut wrench on nut, we have to turn clockwise, because we are screwing it away from receiver.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
...Is their any good advice out there? ...

Goooooood gosh Roger, can't even loosen a nut!

Go down to the local "Slop Chute" and look for a table of MARINES(it will have all the local ladies piled up around it).

Carry the rifle up and tell them a Swab-Jockey told you they have no chance at all of getting the Barrel Nut loosened. Then lay it down and stand back. You won't even need the Wrench!

You "may" want to specify how many pieces you want back.
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Happy New Year!!!

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Originally posted by bartsche:
...Is their any good advice out there? ...

Goooooood gosh Roger, can't even loosen a nut!

Go down to the local "Slop Chute" and look for a table of [b]MARINES[/

Just so I understand ! Are you saying there are a lot of loose nuts in slope shoots?

I hope the happiness of the new year finds its way to KY and makes your trip down the road of life a little more bareable. roger

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...Are you saying there are a lot of loose nuts in slope shoots?

Absolutely!

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I hope the happiness of the new year finds its way to KY and makes your trip down the road of life a little more bareable. roger

Thank you. Seems to be on the mend a bit better each day.

Best of luck with the "nut".

Recently changed the barrel on my son-in-laws old 110. We just put the barrel in a well padded vise, taped up the front ring with electric tape, tightened down the action wrench, and with him holding the action wrench steady against the bench, I gave the nut wrench a whack with a chunk of 2x6 about a foot long. One time is all it needed. I've been told that sometimes the gorilla that Savage has torqueing barrel nuts takes a day off and they have a normal human take over.

I had the same problem with my model 12 Savage. The problem was I couldn't get the barrel vise tight enough. I had a friend put my aluminum AR-15 barrel jaws in a big machinist vise and really crank down on the handle and the put a breaker bar on the barrel nut wrench and the nut came loose. Piece of cake. Shoot Strait..........teele1

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I had the same problem with my model 12 Savage. The problem was I couldn't get the barrel vise tight enough. I had a friend put my aluminum AR-15 barrel jaws in a big machinist vise and really crank down on the handle and the put a breaker bar on the barrel nut wrench and the nut came loose. Piece of cake. Shoot Strait..........teele1

Did you gaul the barrel at all? roger