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Mexican/Turkish Mauser Dimensions
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I just sold a set of what I was told were Mexican Mauser 98 parts. When the fellow received the parts, he said they were too long for the 1934(?) Mexican and he thought they were Turkish Mausers. Can someone on the forum measure a stripped Mexican 1910/1934? bolt and a Turkish bolt from the rear of the bolt to the extended (left lip?) of the front and tell me what that dimension is in inches and thousands of an inch? I don't have any receivers and I would like to find a stripped receiver that these bolts will fit so that I can make something out of them. Any help would be appreciated.


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Those bolts will fit the 1903 Turk Receivers, as well as the 1909 Peruvians. There is another Peruvian, possibly the 1935? that shares the same dimensions as the 1909. They will fit a Yugo intermediate but will not work in a barreled action as-is. If you rebarrel it will function.

The difference between that bolt and the Mex SR 98 is that the nose of the mexican is shorter. If you measure from the extractor undercut groove forward you'll notice that the Mexican is a bit shorter offhand I'd say maybe as much as .100".

I can get real measurements as you asked tonight. Hope that helps some.




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Finally got to measuring, sorry for the delay.

My caliper only goes to 6" so these are approximate based on a ruler. The Mexican measures 6 1/16" from rear to end of "tits". The Yuyo measures the same except of course there are no "tits". The intermediate Turk (1903) bolt measures 6 3/16" to end of "tits".

The easy way to identify a Mexican bolt is to note that the distance from extractor undercut groove to front end of bolt is .130" while the intermediates measure .185".

Hope that helps.




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And the springfield was copied from captured mex. 98s and the m-70 Win is a cleaned and changed 03 springfield. Very appareant when you look at how close mex.98 bolt head looks and how the springfield bolt head looks and measures, springfield and winchester omitted the dovetail on the second bite on the bolt and extractor to make it easier to make. All those little differances make a Mauser the most intensive to manufacture in terms of the number of set ups and cuts. I have spent the last 9 years on Mauser stuff, they are one awesome mouse trap when it come to a crank and yank. It's simple and difficult all rolled up into one sick little package.
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z1r - I got Jerry Kuhnhausen's book on the Mauser and on page 214-215, he gives all the measurements. One bolt I have has "tits" and the other one hasn't. Curioser and Curiouser! I guess one is a Yugo and the other is ?


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It's real easy to identify the 1903 Turk bolt by the handle. It has the classic teardrop shaped handle. The Yugo's have a round ball, or, if bent, a round ball with flat rear.

Another key, if you can fit a standard 98 extractor on the bolt, then it ain't a Mexican bolt.

The Peruvian 1909 is very much the same as the 1903 Turk but the markings may be slightly different.




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