Saw two famous gunsmiths (names witheld to protect the innocent) fondling the latest Bell & Carlson, aluminum bedded, hand laid, (like Mcmillan) stocks at the Shot Show. Coated with your choice of brand name camo, 2 to 4 week delivery. $192 plus $20 for camo. May have to think about this since I need two stocks. Also, Pachmeyer included.
I've had a B&C on my 7mm Mag for about 15 years. Good stocks. I've never had a problem with it. I'm thinking of putting one of their Carbelite's on my Rem 700 Classic in 6.5x55.
Mac
Posts: 1638 | Location: Colorado by birth, Navy by choice | Registered: 04 February 2001
I have one of those stocks (Bell & Carlson Medalist). The bedding block really snugs and holds the action. My Howa went from shooting consistent 1 1/4" groups to 1/2" to 5/8" groups. They are very well made with hand laid fiberglass, carbon fiber (graphite), and Kevlar (aramid) fibers. Sweet.
I don't know what it weighs, though. It did knock about 1/4 lb off the rifle. though.
Posts: 2206 | Location: USA | Registered: 31 August 2002
I've got the B&C Carbelite in Tan with Black spiderweb on my 7x57 custom and couldn't be happier. The finish looks great and the stock seems pretty stiff. Also the molded in checkering feels really good to my hands.
Posts: 1242 | Location: Houston, TX, USA | Registered: 04 April 2002
"I have the partial remains of a Bell and Carlson stock finsh stuck to the wall of my shop. It became attached to the wall the very second I hit the stock with my air hose to remove some shavings... I should probably take a rag and wipe it off, but it serves as a reminder of one of the reasons I dislike the Bell and Carlson stock...
Malm"
Update:
After looking at it for several years, I have finally wiped the remaining Bell & Carlson finish from my wall. In keeping with the spirit of open mindedness on this forum and to keep on the good side of Chic, I will withhold further comment until I see what the new stock looks like.
I got a B&C stock from a friend for $50 and since the factory stock that came with my M 70 SS Classic really has no recoil pad I tried the B&C. All I did was use a barrel channel file to open up the stock a tiny bit and then I had to shorten the rifles magazine box some with a file.
I just put it in the stock and it shoots really well. I have it in varmint mode now and am getting small groups with the 120 V Max and a max load. This stock is 2 oz heavier than the factory one at 33 oz but it has a soft recoil pad.
This is a good enough deal for this factory rifle. Since the barrel is not a featherweight I see no reason to go nuts over a lighter stock. The McMillan site says their stocks weight two pounds anyway.
Now Malmborg says the finish comes off. Like Allen said the sky is falling.
Malm: New B&C stocks do look good. Most important to me is, B&C was enthusiastic, acted like they cared about my business, McMillan, acted like they think I have to buy from them & I should be happy to wait 4 months to get a stock. Asked McMillan about new camo coating & they said they tried it 10 years ago & it was no good, would they not think technology may have improved in the last 10 years? I tkink McMillan has too much of everyone elses money to need mine!
Two friends of mine have them.One has one on a rem 700 in 270 and it shoots well.The other one went on a 338 and it cracked in the recoil lug area.It was replaced and it cracked again and I do not know the present status.
Posts: 3104 | Location: alberta,canada | Registered: 28 January 2002
quote:Originally posted by 99Fan1: Savage99 Hey in that 257 Roberts Varmit rifle. The 120 grain bullet is ok but try the 87 grain. Maybe this why you do not like this caliber?????
Just kidding Savage99
The 120 gr load is for pests. The Eastern woodchuck is one tough animal and only if it were a 257 RR would I be loaded for bear!
You see the cartridge is a 7 MM WSM and 71 grs of powder should be giving it 3400 fps. You would not blame me if you have seen the teeth on those woodchucks.
I also have 2 of the B&C stocks. 1 on a 700 long action in tan web. That stock took a bit of fitting and bedding. Have no complaints with it and would do it agian. The other I just bought for my Savage 112 bvss in black web. It is pillar bedded and didnt take as much time to fit, just a little sanding in the barrel channel. Have'nt shot it yet so dont now if it needs bedding. Thought about filling the forend cavities with glass bed to stiffen it up for that 26" lead pipe out front.
quote:Originally posted by Savage99: What do they weigh with a pad?
........ I purchased the B&C Medalist to replace the factory tupperware on my 300RUM; the stock weighs exactly 36 ounces equipped with the Decelerator pad. For proper fit, I needed to clearance the barrel channel a bit and remove some material to allow the bolt to close all the way. The literatue states that bedding is not recommended for the bedding block equipped stock. Since this rifle shot .7's and .8's previously in the tupperware stock, I expect it to shoot as well in this stock. The factory stock had the raised pad (for pressure on the barrel) removed so I wanted to duplicate that no barrel contact would take place. Will shoot with new stock tomorrow for the first time 2/16 and will post results. I believe B&C make a quality product for a good price and they are available, unlike McMillans. KMule
Posts: 1300 | Location: Alaska.USA | Registered: 15 January 2002
quote:Originally posted by Idaho Ron: To you guys that have them. Did you bed them? What did you have to do to the stock to get it to shoot? Ron
Nothing. I had to add a little bit of clearance around the bolt stop. B&C strongly recomended that I leave the pressure pad on the forend. In their experience, Howas with sporter contour barrels shoot better that way. Well, the way my rifle shoots, I see no reason to doubt them, nor to remove the pad. My stock came with a luminum bedding block, and it would probably repeat zero better after R&R the action if I glass bedded it. However, once the action is in, I hardly, if ever, take it out again, so I'm not going to bother.
Posts: 2206 | Location: USA | Registered: 31 August 2002
I ordered one for my pre-64 a couple of weeks ago. They sent me a stock for a Browning A bolt so I sent it back. I liked the looks and feel of the stock. My rifle shoots good now. I wanted to make it more weather resistant. My gun is in original condition. I understand they are easy to install and even have the hole for the front stock screw. I can't wait to get it. Ron
I have a B&C on my 358 Winchester Model 70. I had the gun rebarreled from a 308 by Shilen. The gun shoots well with this stock. I did have it pillar bedded. My only complaint is that the pistol grip seems thicker than it needs to be. I just bought a H.S Precision for my 257 Roberts ADL. I haven't put it on yet.
Bob257
Posts: 434 | Location: Pennsylvania, USA | Registered: 22 November 2002
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