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I have an old military foot locker that I was going to turn into a damp cabinet for rust blueing. It is 13x16x32. I am planning to stand it on end and screw some blocks into the base to elevate enough to allow the door to swing freely. I have a small crockpot for adding the heat and humidity. I was planning to run some wires taught across and use them to hang parts. My question is how to support/suspend the barrel?

Or perhaps I should maintain the horizontal orientation of the box and suspend the barrel by means of a dowel through the bore hooked on a couple of screweyes.

If anybody has a description, or better yet photos, of their arrangement I would love to get some good ideas for configuration...
 
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Yes please, I want to try rust bluing as well. I ahve an old rem scoremaster 22 as the gunea pig & then it will be my 1903 Mannlicher Schoenauer & the the 1910 MS.


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I'd go vertical. A piece of brazing rod thru the barrel, bend each end as neccessary, one bend holds it, one hangs it. Or a piece of heavy trimmer line thru the barrel tied to a washer at one end and a loop on the other to hang it.
 
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Is it enough to just have a high wattage bulb over a bowl of water to create the humidity required? How long does one leave the rifle in the sweat box?


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Plug both ends of the bore to keep the rust out. This indicates but does not require a horizontal orientation, your particular shop space may dictate the actual position.
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I have done some hobby rust bluing using Gun Goddess Rust bluing solution, and it worked out very well. Once you get it on there and it cures its tough stuff.

I used my shower for a damp cabinet and it worked fine!

Also, because I did not want to plug my barrels to boil them I used steam instead. I just suspended the barrel over boiling water and let the rising steam hit it. Worked fine.
 
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The damp cabinet at the gunsmithing school at Trinidad was vertical. It was about 6" or 8" deep, about 34" high, and 18" wide. It had a small tin plate (maybe 5" diameter) of water in the bottom next to the light bulb controlled by a switch on the side of the cabinet. I think there were dual-horned wire coat-hooks across each side. Maybe 3 of them on each side? You hung the barrel set on an S-hook placed through the extractor hole onto the coat hooks. Or you could hook the receiver body for a rifle. Both ends were plugged with rubber stoppers. There was a little combination thermometer/hygrometer in the cabinet. Using the Brownells rust blue, it was only about an hour in the cabinet to get a layer of rust.

At home, I've had success getting a layer of rust in my garage during the humid summer in MD in about 3 or 4 hours, or just using the Mark Lee express blue solution, which rusts right away without a box, but I plan to build a damp box because it worked really well.

BTW, it had a glass front with a wooden border so that you could see humidity and temp as well as rust progress without having to open it.

Hope this helps,
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I have been reading a lot of sorces on rust bluing & have always been confused by some using a sweat box and others just heating the rifle with a hair dryer and applying the rusting solution. The hair dryer method is supposed to be quicker as you can do 6 ot 7 repeats in a couple of hours.

Why this difference? Is it the type of rusting solution used that determined the quick or slow rusting?

I have made up a solution with Hydrochloric acid, Nitric acid & steel wool which is supposed to be a quick rust.


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I have been reading a lot of sorces on rust bluing & have always been confused by some using a sweat box and others just heating the rifle with a hair dryer and applying the rusting solution. The hair dryer method is supposed to be quicker as you can do 6 ot 7 repeats in a couple of hours.

Why this difference? Is it the type of rusting solution used that determined the quick or slow rusting?

I have made up a solution with Hydrochloric acid, Nitric acid & steel wool which is supposed to be a quick rust.


It sounds like you are talking about a "quick blue" similar to the Mark Lee brand.

Normal slow rust bluing needs to sit for hours or days in a damp cabnet or in the right environment to produce rust.

I have had luck slow rust bluing small parts using steam to get the rusting process started.


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