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Hi all,
I have a follower from a custom CZ 550 Magnum that needs some weld added to the rear to lengthen and fill due to it hanging up when depressed.
Should I use 416 rod or a 3 series rod for this?

Cheers.
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I would put some cold blue on the follower to see what it is. If it's stainless, weld with stainless, if chromoly - - - - - - - - - - - - . Followers could be made from dried out bubblegum and still be functional.
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Exactly what Speer said; followers are not made from anything exotic; old coat hangers work well.
 
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If stainless, use the 3 series. 304L or 316L rod preferred.

Welding 400 series with 400 series has issues. Not impossible, just not easy.

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old coat hangers work well.


Except they weld like shit


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That was a joke, for the humorless among you. Besides, I couldn't make them fit through my MIG gun.
 
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That was a joke, for the humorless among you. Besides, I couldn't make them fit through my MIG gun.


They do make a larger spool, heavy duty feeder and gun for that now Tom. You really should try to stay abreast of the new technologies !

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Silver brazing could work just fine too IMHO.

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I will look for one like that at Harbor Freight. I can see a place to hang a drop light from the antlers.
Silver Brazing? Wow, no. Totally unnecessary for a liner and requires way too much heat on a long tube.
But here is a historic story; when Springfield Armory converted the 1863 Rifle Muskets to 50 caliber, they did brass braze in the liners; they put them into a charcoal forge and left them in all night. In the morning they would be cool and the brass was sucked into the ends. That was in 1866.
 
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I have heard of furnace brazing in liners. I have often wondered though, if they didn't just braze in a tube and then ream and rifle it after furnace brazing? One would think the amount of surface carburizing would make it almost impossible to work with a pre-rifled tube ?

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I have 316 rod on hand, can't see a problem putting stainless on it, just thought I would ask first.
I can't really determine what material the follower is, so, it can't hurt.

Cheers.
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If cold blue takes, it's chromoly. If it doesn't, it's stainless. Mixing the two metals can be temperamental to weld. It will also have a color difference if taken to a medium high polish. Welding stainless to chromoly will look like a light yellow stain on the part. It will function no matter what you use.


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Thanks Speerchucker,
I have done lots of stainless to mild steel and chrome molly before, I'm not worried about any colour differences, just the function of the follower. I have a 416 Rigby follower in there at the moment, it doesn't hang up when feeding the magazine like the one that was in there. Maybe I should just mill this one to suit the 505, but, then I won't have one for my 404 when it's completed.

Cheers.
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