I found a very attractive J. P Sauer & Sohn sporting mauser, but unsure just what caliber it is.

On the underside of the barrel there are the following markings 7.9mm under that is 60 . I think this means it may be a 8 x 60 ?
also present underside of barrel Crowns over B G U, and 7/27 (July/1927?)and what appear to be an M over an H and ASS. Along with what look like (2) large C around smaller R.

Left side of Front ring has a Crown STMG and N - 13 gr.

Top of full length matted rib has J.P. Sauer & Sohn.

Overall the rifle is very nice and lacks side panels for a very trim stock, spoon bolt, lever floor plate, Greener type side safety, double triggers, Horn butt plate and grip cap, octagon to round full matted rib integral front sight. 1 standing with 1 flip up rear. Some engraving - bolt, floor plate, claw bases and rings that hold an old Zeiss.

Just really a charming rifle that appears a grade or two above some of the other between the war sporting mausers I have seen, but I am not sure what cartridge it is chambered for, and would like to have some idea of that rounds availability.

Any help surely welcome.

Many Thanks

HBH

Why not try an 8x60 cartridge in it and see if it chambers. Ammo is currently made by RWS and not that hard to come by although a little spendy. It sounds to be an 8 x60, you would also want to slug the bore to insure a .323 groove dia. for the 8x60S. You can PM me for more info if you would like as I have an 8x60S
like you describe and some ammo.
m4220

SDH and m4220

I had been following your thread as those guild rifles always kind of caught my attention, but I realy dont know a lot about their history. I know a little more today from searchs and below sources.

I spoke with Mr. Appel today who forwarded this ones markings to Mr. Cate, Sauer consultant for the German Gun Collectors Association .

Mr. Cate says the 7/27 date is the proofing date of July,1927 and 13grams is weight of powder (type unknown) with steel jacketed lead bullet. Mr. Cate went on to say likly a .318 as are most 8 x 60. I am going to try and slug the bore to know for sure.

m422o,

you have a pm.

Many Thanks

HBH

Brett, I doubt it will be a .318 bore being proofed in 1927, if it is you will need 8x60
dies & brass which are not as common but you can
make one from the other with the proper dies and
neck expander. I have 2 boxes of DWM 8x60 brass
also just in case one ends up in my safe.

m4220

m4220,

From the history lesson I had today, I kind of thought it must be .323 at this latter date. But I guess slugging will be the only way to know. I would have done better in history had it been this rifle intensive.

Many Thanks

HBH

I would be surprised if it is a 323. Most suhl 8mm civilian barrels were 318 up until the wall fell. They still chamber 318 8X57IR drillings to this day.

You definately gotta slug that bore.

Just wanted to say thanks for all the help. Turns out after slugging to be .323

Many Thanks

HBH