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I'm a licenced firearms dealer from Australia (that country down under that apparently is considered an ally of the U.S.) . Ordered a steel Williams trigger guard from Brownells for a model 70 Winchester a couple of days ago . Received an email today to say they can't supply as Williams aren't registered with the U.S. State Dept.  Originally wanted complete one piece bottom metal . Midway have it but won't export to other than Canada .  Apparently I could build a weapon of mass distraction from a steel trigger guard (as opposed to the rubbish alloy one that I already have) and wreak havoc upon modern civilisation . Seems to me that the U.S State Dept. and their ridiculous regulations aren't doing your local firearms industry any favours . Think I'll buy European from here on . The hunting imperative was part of every man's soul; some denied or suppressed it, others diverted it into less blatantly violent avenues of expression, wielding clubs on the golf course or racquets on the court, substituting a little white ball for the prey of flesh and blood. Wilbur Smith | ||
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Just a thought, but how about getting a hold of Williams and having them register with the State Department. It isn't the State Dept's job to go out looking for folks to register. BTW, how are you guy's doing at trying to regain your gun rights? _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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I suggest you find a mate here in the States or Canada to order it for themselves and then have them ship it to you directly. George  | |||
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Hi, I ran into the same problem trying to send a front and rear sight to a friend in SA. The cost of a State Dept export cert. is $1750 per year. I think Williams over reacted. The export ban lists the weapons and countries that require an export permit. Yackman | |||
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That would require Matt at Williams to actually answer an email. Good luck with that. I ahve been trying for 2 months via email and PM to order from him and cant get a reply William Berger True courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne The courageous may not live forever, but the timid do not live at all. | |||
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I empathize with you 100%. It greatly hurts me to watch our country's governmental dolts destroy all industries here bit-by-bit with fantasy-inspired less than real-world-practical regulations. It is bureaucratic empire-building in action, using the political support of eco-idiots, and fear mongers. It is also costing us, one-by-one, the few genuine allies we have left. "The Ugly American, government-style. Not representative of the everyday people, but of the lust for money and power. I suggest you send a copy of your post to the U.S. Federal Trade Commission, whose business it is to PROMOTE trade. | |||
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Bushchook, I import from USA from time to time ,I am a gundealer in Melbourne, it is no problem bringing it out but it may require state dept permission and extra cost .PM me and I will see what I can do. cheers sjm 12x12/9.3x74R | |||
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I special order these from my local "hardware" store and they drop ship them to me. I found them in their catalog under: "Safety Cover, Emergency Toggle Switch - Narrow" I understand the hole spacing fits a model 70 Winchester. Drop me an email, send payment and I will mail you one.  Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Outstanding, reminds me of my military days looking in the parts breakdown for fighter aircraft. They never would just come out and identify a part, always had a name that would throw you off the track unless you knew what you were looking for. Thomas | |||
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When one sees the fines which have been levied by the State Department against such retailers as Bass Pro (over 500 thousand dollars) and Cabela's (nearly 300 thousand dollars) one can understand why some US manufacturers might be a bit nervous. This is a pretty blatant example of government interfering with commerce and is plainly contrary to the spirit of freetrade. Since it affects only shooters, gunsmiths, and the manufacturers of gun parts and accessories, nobody is going to care much about it. Regards, Bill. | |||
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Couldn't agree more gentlemen! Once upon a time it was easy for us 'down under' to browse through the websites of those massive bits and pieces stores you yanks have over there and take our pick. Sure, some things needed a permit to bring into the country but that process is free, quick and painless. I recall reading a thread in an Aussie forum where Cabela's wouldn't sell one chap a bloody GPS of all things  Bloody bureaucracy gone mad... Now the stores where I used to be able to buy brass and so on won't 'ship to Australia' anymore! Midway? ... They don't sell to indiviuals in Australia What we need is someone in the US who would be prepared to forward stuff on to us (legally and above board of course) | |||
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Order the part from a FFL who exports, thats what I do. 12x12/9.3x74R | |||
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