Check out these links folks for two interesting rifles! Is the Jeffery really made of the Remington Model 30 action? What is that "imperial" action for the 505 Gibbs? Thanks!
The 500 Jefferey seems to be a real steal if you are interested in one. Ming the 30S is a wonderful big bore action and will handle alot of the bigger cartridges. I have a friend who has a 585 Nyati on one.
Posts: 6277 | Location: Not Likely, but close. | Registered: 12 August 2002
Ming, That looks like the Model 30 that I own. Mine is an early Model 30A but at that time the receivers were marked the same. I've seen one that was marked differently that was made in 1934 - it was so marked on the left side of the front ring.
Regards, Jeff P
Planning to build a 470 Mbogo on mine unless I find another M30 or Enfield action. The little rifle that I have is in pretty nice shape - will be even nicer when JBelk gets done with it! Then it may be even harder to convert it, however. I had located one of the 1934 marked actions earlier but it was a little rough and then another friend grabbed it...no biggy FWIW - There is an article referenced in the Remignton section references of DeHaas' Bolt Action Rifles book on just such a 1934 variant of the Model 30.
The Jefferys is the real deal but I bid up to $3000 on it and didn't make the price, just high bidder....I won't go past that on this one. Jeffery is back in business you know.
Posts: 42210 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000
A little too much for me too but a really nice piece. If they're back in business (they were acquired by H&H years ago) and still up to old quality standards, I imagine $7K is "cheap" compared to current replacement prices. I didn't know Jeff ever used M-30 actions to build those rifles.
Posts: 9487 | Location: Texas Hill Country | Registered: 11 January 2002
Thanks guys for the info! Yeah I was thinking about going after the Jeffery but never thought that the reserve would be around $7000.
While we are on this subject, how do you feel about buying a used rifle on the internet? One thing that crosses my mind is the history of the rifle. What did the original owner do to the rifle? Are the lugs set back, etc? How much should I be concerning about some of these things? Thanks!
Posts: 1002 | Location: Midwest USA | Registered: 01 September 2001
mingo- It's just like buying any used gun. You don't really know what you've got unless you take it apart. With that said I've never seen a single M-30 with set-back locking lugs!There are quite a few M-30's out there in butchered condition( missing parts, D&T'd, wrong stock etc. If the metal is in decent shape,they make a really nice starting point for a 505 Gibbs,585 Nyati etc. Much less work than starting with a 1917 win Enfield ( nice receiver shape, cock on open )etc. I buy up nearly every decent M-30 I can find. Unfortunately, many have been Swiss cheezed with screw holes for the open sights and early scopes popular in the 30"s and look terrible. I avoid those like the plague. figure on paying $325-385 for a good one.-Rob
Posts: 6314 | Location: Las Vegas,NV | Registered: 10 January 2001
I received this email from Steve Wojtak, the seller of the Jeffery:
"It was assembled by White Hunter Limited of the UK and California. He acquired the name of W. Jeffery and Son. Just like Rigby name was acquired by the Rogue River Corp of CA. The rifle is only several years old. It is not from the Jeffery of 100 years ago. It does feed with no problems. There is a 3 day inspection period."
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Posts: 9487 | Location: Texas Hill Country | Registered: 11 January 2002
Paul Roberts has bought Jeffery from Holland. He is the same guy who used to own Rigby. He is a very good rifle maker but not much of a businessman and the later Rigby bolt aactions were not much to admire.
Posts: 6277 | Location: Not Likely, but close. | Registered: 12 August 2002
quote:Originally posted by Robgunbuilder: mingo- It's just like buying any used gun. You don't really know what you've got unless you take it apart. With that said I've never seen a single M-30 with set-back locking lugs!There are quite a few M-30's out there in butchered condition( missing parts, D&T'd, wrong stock etc. If the metal is in decent shape,they make a really nice starting point for a 505 Gibbs,585 Nyati etc. Much less work than starting with a 1917 win Enfield ( nice receiver shape, cock on open )etc. I buy up nearly every decent M-30 I can find. Unfortunately, many have been Swiss cheezed with screw holes for the open sights and early scopes popular in the 30"s and look terrible. I avoid those like the plague. figure on paying $325-385 for a good one.-Rob
Thanks Rob for the insight! I have been hunting for a good condition Remington model 30 just to collect a couple of them. I really have no desire to have any big bore built on any of those older actions.
Posts: 1002 | Location: Midwest USA | Registered: 01 September 2001
Thanks for the suggestion! I will have to buy the book to learn more about it. Please post some pictures of your model 30 when it's ready to show. Thanks.
Posts: 1002 | Location: Midwest USA | Registered: 01 September 2001
I purchased a custom 510-460Wby made on a Brevex action from the seller of the Jeffery (Steve Wojtak). He likes classic big bores, has sold some nice pieces over the last couple of years on GunBroker. Based on my experience, I doubt if he'll sell that rifle much below his reserve, but you never know.
Posts: 9487 | Location: Texas Hill Country | Registered: 11 January 2002
Mickey1, I sold a customer from Mexico a 404 on a Obendorf action, sent it to Paul for inspection, who told my client it wasn't an Obendrof action and sent it back to me and sold the client one of his rifles...I sent the client a photo showing him the side of the action which clearly stated Obendorf as all Mausers do, never had a lot of faith in Paul Roberts after that....Client was sure Roberts was right but decided he wanted the rifle sent to him anyway.. I refused the sale and sold that rifle to another party...
Posts: 42210 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000
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