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Just want some advice on a Mauser action.
Is a Mauserwerke A-G Oberndorf, manufactured circa 1933, a good action for a custom
Build. The bolt handle is already how I want it. I’ve heard the are meant to be one
Of the best Mauser actions made just want to make sure I’m buying something suitable.
It’s most likely going to be for a 10.75x68

Thanks

An Oberndorf action from that era is about as good as they get, as long as it hasn’t been abused. Most of those 30’s Oberndorf actions, ‘35 Brazilians, Chileans, etc, had a Mauser banner on the ring or bridge. I could never bring myself to use one for anything other than an iron sight gun so I wouldn’t have to drill through a banner.

10.75x68 is a fine cartridge! Good luck!

Yes it will be a nice action to use; but your picture is terrible and shows nothing of the action.
As stated, do not drill through the banner.
As far as actions go; German actions vary from great to poor. If you always want to be sure, use a VZ24, or a Polish WZ29. Those are always good.
Or you can ask.

It was already drilled and tapped for bases.
It was already sporterised bolt handle.
However it sold.
I can get a 1909 Mauser for a pretty good price.
Probably a better price than the obrendorf.
And also interams actions are good as they are a commercial Mauser

OK, let's back up a bit.
An argentine action can be soft; metallurgy before WW1 was spotty. So, it won't necessarily be better than the 1933 Oberndorf one. Of course the 09 bottom metal is the best military one ever made and widely used on sporters. That alone is worth $150. Using one depends on the caliber you will put on it. Or just have it re heat treated by Blanchards.
As for Interarms; those will be good; however won't be as well finished as the others you mention. Those were made in Yugoslavis (Zastava). But are strong.
Personally, I'd get one of each. No. actually, I'd get 3 of each.

Yes I agree however the obrendorf didn’t come with a hinged floorplate. And I’m only going on what I’ve read that some people think being softer is better as it can stretch rather then shatter. And the interarms are a bit inconsistent however it doesn’t have to be the smoothest.

Not true; so don't believe that. Soft is better than brittle, but we aren't talking about that. Receivers made from low carbon steel, as all were until after WW2, should be hard on the surface and soft on the inside.
Yes, Inerarms MkX, and Herters are perfectly fine actions. I have like 6 of there here. Made in the 60s, from alloy steel, they are very strong.
As for hinged floorplates, I only use military ones for my own rifles; clients pay too much for them and I have no need to open it quickly anyway.
I also recommend a 400 Whelen for a large bore standard length caliber; easier to get bullets for, and brass is just 30-06.

Ok I understand. Are interarms harder to instal a Winchester model 70 style safety than a Military M98. I just like the look of a hinged floorplate. And doesn’t worry me that brass and bullets aren’t as easy to get and I like the 10.75x68.

I have installed Wisner Model 70 safeties on MkX with no problems.

Fromthebush - that’s the one that sod on used guns for $650? Not outrageously priced especially for an Oberndorf action if the barrel was ok. I can’t click on the add but it says “standard model” - if it really was a standard model then it was an amazing price and I would’ve jumped on it if I’d seen it. Unfortunately if it’s a remotely good deal usedguns you have to act very fast, and there are clearly quite a few Mauser fans that watch it. Keep checking it everyday and you’ll find one eventually - FN commercials come up every so often which are a great action. Nothing wrong with a zastava (interarms) but not as highly regarded in the custom build world. Bottom metals can be changed out easily. 1909s are sought after - if you can get it for a good price then consider it but there are a lot of anecdotal reports of setback although it’s often not clear that their hardness is the underlying cause IMO.

dpcd - he’s in Australia, AFAIK there are no quick/easy/cheap options for hardening receivers. Compared to the US prices and availability of all guns are poor with mausers being no exception

Yes he just told me he is in Australia, So I can't help him.
That would be the purpose of the Location block in profile.
As for Argentine 1909s, yes, some are soft; fine for 7.65, but when rechambered for 30-06 like some importers did, or barreling them for a magnum caliber, they can set back. Not all of them. But there is no way to check them.

Yes i should have jumped on it.
Just someone else did before me

Probably lucky you didn’t get it, could have had all kinds of issues.
Just because it is a Standard Model doesn’t mean bubba hasn’t trashed it.
Not being a smartarse, just be very careful with these old ex mil sporters. I learned the hard way once or twice believe me lol.
Better to start with an action that hasn’t been dicked with.

https://usedguns.com.au/gun/515334/
Something like this.

I could have got a complete military fn Mauser
But I don’t want to sporterise a good rifle
When there are others out there that have been

I’m happy to go with an interarms.
Already have a 404 barreled action and
One in 7x57. The obrendorf would have made a
Good 10.75x68 however a interarms will do

Apologies Fromthebush, the Oberndorf is on its way to me. I jumped on it as soon as I saw it listed. The dealer sent detailed photos of the action without the scope bases. It hasn't been drilled through the banner and hopefully has missed the locking lug face and have been correctly aligned. Of course, I won't know until I have it in hand. To me it was worth the gamble with the components that came with it. Time will tell, the dealer has a return policy.

The FN that metal posted the link to would be a safer bet and make a nice 10.75 x 68.

Metal makes a good point re previous bubba’ing. I was looking at that FN action too and thinking it could be a good one, I like the FN Herstel wording on the side. You have good taste in cartridges fromthebush!

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Originally posted by Hartley:
Apologies Fromthebush, the Oberndorf is on its way to me. I jumped on it as soon as I saw it listed. The dealer sent detailed photos of the action without the scope bases. It hasn't been drilled through the banner and hopefully has missed the locking lug face and have been correctly aligned. Of course, I won't know until I have it in hand. To me it was worth the gamble with the components that came with it. Time will tell, the dealer has a return policy.

The FN that metal posted the link to would be a safer bet and make a nice 10.75 x 68.

awesome, glad someone here got it. I’ve never seen a banner Mauser for sale in this country - I’m not sure I could’ve resisted if I’d been in a position to get it… could you put some pics up when you get it? Are you going to restock it?

Hartley, good luck with the rifle. Like you say it’s probably worth a punt and if it’s no good just return it.
20 years ago a gunshop in Melbourne tried to stitch me up on an Original Oberndorf sporter action. The bolt face had been severely fked with but when I contacted them they said tough shit. So I jumped in the car and drove 3 hrs so I could exercise my consumer rights.
Got my money back after arguing the toss for a while.

To me he just seemed sketchy. He said on his email no phone calls and something about terms and conditions that’s why I was skeptical at first