Is there a web site or some other source that describes the various Pilkington products?

Nope, nothing out there besides what little you get from Brownells.

Watcha got in mind?

Terry

Are the gunstock finish and the linseed oil two different finishes, or are they both used and complement each other.

Are there pictures of what the stains / finishes look like, before and after.

Thanks

I've got some before and after pics of the english red stain on turkish walnut if that helps. I'll post them when I get home tonight. It's good stuff. I've never used the finish though. All the fnishes I use are poly based.

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One thing you need to keep in mind with all stains is they will "tone" the figure down in the wood. In the case of this blank it was a good thing.

Terry

I like his pre-64 stain-it's more of a reddish brown, like a linseed on old walnut color. It's called a spirit stain, but alchohol is not the correct thinner. I think xylene is the thinner. No photos available, but it made a Savage tan laminated stock look like striped rosewood.

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Originally posted by SlowLeadBullets:
Are the gunstock finish and the linseed oil two different finishes, or are they both used and complement each other.

They are two different products. The finish is linseed and spar varnish mix........the other is a linseed top dressing with some dryers. He gave his students the formula for mixing his finish when I attended his class in 1983. If you wish, I could dig through my book shelves and find it, although I believe there are any number of commercial products available now that are every bit as good. His wet-sanding technique is mirrored by a number of others.

Thanks everyone. I appreciate the input.

Grandview, I for one would love to see the recipe for pilkingtons finish. I have done two stocks with it that turned out real well for a beginner,(bubba), I like the pre 64 red. I did a Great American Gunstocks supplied english walnut stock on an old A5 Browning that I would like to finish with the red. Thanks in adavance. DW

Grandview

I would like to see the formula as well.

Why do we never hear anything about Pilkington anymore? I would like to attend a seminar like the one you attended but have never heard of Pilkington doing another.

I believe Mr. Pilkington has recently taught at Trinidad State Junior College during the summer NRA courses. You may check to see if he will be returning next year.
Steve

It'll take me a couple days to find it guys. I'll post it then.

I have had no luck finding information about Phil Pilkington for the last 15 years.....and I've made several inquiries of people who should know.

His first class.....in conjunction with Ron Lampert (metalsmith)....was 1980 I believe. I attended the 2nd in 1983........I believe there was another in 1985.

xs headspace: Years, ago, with the help of an MD friend, I did a seminar on hazards of stock finishes..by all means, stay away from xylene unless you want your liver for a door stop..same goes for toulene...any of the "enes" for that matter