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There is an ad on Ebay that makes the following claim.

"Here is your change to pick up a air gauged, lapped, factory contoured barrel. The quality of these barrels are as good as a Douglas or Shilen match grade barrel for about 100 bucks less."

Are they as good?
 
Posts: 2059 | Location: Mpls., MN | Registered: 28 June 2014Reply With Quote
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Only if you are very lucky; they are more variable in quality than good ones. One might be ok and the next one, not so much.
 
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Plus, the cost of the barrel is only part of the total cost, if it doesn't shoot and you have to do it over, it ain't cheap any more.
 
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I am talking hunting quality, not benchrest quality.
 
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I'm pretty sure Wilson doesn't lap the barrels a third party does . So the barrels are sold then someone else laps them . Generally this makes the barrels slightly oversize unless the buyer purchases in bulk and orders them undersize . I've seen some of these , they look great inside , no machine marks at all , that tells me the lapping process was used to remove all traces of the button process . Not necessarily a bad thing , but again air gauge has a value ( number ) attached to it . Just saying air gauged means nothing , you want to know what are the specs .
Hope this makes sense .
 
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"The Wilson Arms barrels are Select Match Grade, button rifled barrels; lapped and air gauged to .0002". The blanks in are 27" to finish at 26" or less... These barrels are the same quality as a Shilen Select match; Douglas XX; and even the X-caliber barrels just at a $50-$100 discount in price. We buy in blocks of 100 to 200 barrels every month so our price brake with Wilson is simply passed on to the shooter."
 
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So who is lapping the barrels ? Not the barrel manufact . If you have a problem , can you return it to ? Problem being not accurate ?
I'm sure only the third party will warranty it not Wilson .
It's worth a try , but I'll spend the money on shilen , my time is worth more than the advert pitch .
Just my $.02
 
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Here is what I know; I have been to Douglas many times, and I have personally used their air gauge machine. they have a bank of them. ALL their barrels come in at under .0002 variation, and most are .0001 and under. Without lapping. They do not lap their barrels to get the precision; it is machined in from the drilling, reaming, and rifling process. I do not work for them.
 
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I am familiar with the fleabay seller. They have a website where you can order direct and save some cost as fleabay won't take a cut. I have one of these blanks to replace a .22 barrel that's nearly burnt out. I can say that company's responsive and a fast shipper if what they have is in stock.

Anymore it seems that most factories are mass-producing barrels capable of < 1 MOA with irregular bore diameters, rough tooling marks and crooked chambers notwithstanding.

I hear a lot of conjecture about the 'quality' of barrel manufacturers, but I've ever seen actual evidence. The Brux and Bartlein barrels I do have never came with a QA/QC certification of the material, its properties, the bore/groove dimensions or the rate of twist to 4 decimal places. I have factory CZs that shoot .5MOA and last month I shot a friend's $269-out-the-door Savage and it too was better than MOA. Seems you'd have to have an utterly piss-poor product to not be able to compete with former Soviets and the bottom-of-the-barrel consumer-grade Savage guns, especially if the single thing you do is make barrels.

I am set up to chamber/install my own barrels so the cost of the barrel itself is my biggest hurdle with my time after that. At $165 delivered I can utterly ruin a blank an still come out ahead when compared to Bartlein, Brux, Krieger etc. I do not require .1 MOA benchrest accuracy for the shooting I do. If the discount 'Wilson' barrels do shoot though then bully for me. I'll write up my experience here for everyone to discriminate against when the time comes.


OP, If you have a gunsmith doing your work then you should go with their recommendation as you will have their guarantee of their product. Gamble or don't as you see fit.
 
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Sort of a range report. I don't usually shoot paper, but here's a data point:

SAAMI .223 Rem, SS Wilson 8-twist #4 contour cut to 24", installed on a CZ 527 bolt action. All loads used random range brass with R-P stamped cases heads and CCI 450s. Groups are at 200 yards in shifty breeze shot prone off a bipod. I threaded both ends/chambered/crowned the barrel. I am just a hobbyist with a lathe in his garage.

26.0gr Varget is 3005fps with the 77SMK 2.290" OAL
27.1 BLC-2 is 3090fps with the 69SMK 2.300" OAL (Depending on ambient temperature)
29.0gr BLC-2 with lead-tipped 50gr Sierra Blitz groups less than .5MOA at 200 yards too. (not pictured).



Synopsis: 3 loads that fit the CZ magazine and group less than .5MOA is acceptable to me for a $165 barrel blank.
 
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I've got 1 wilson 300 blkout bbl. so far it's a 1 holer with subsonic at 50yds. Haven't tried further yet.
 
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Wilson barrels have worked well for me. I earned my Distinguished Rifleman's Badge with a Wilson barrel on my service rifle.


DR #2276, P-100 2021
 
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