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Re-heat treat bf or after action work?

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31 March 2005, 08:00
snowcat
Re-heat treat bf or after action work?
1917 Spandau. Will be used for a warmly loaded modern round. Should I send it off to Salt Lake before I d&t, surface grind, reshape the tang, etc or after? This is the first action that I have considered heat treating.

Also, I wasn't going to treat the bolt. Should I? Thanks a million.

Jay Kolbe


Jay Kolbe
31 March 2005, 18:29
22WRF
Others in the past have indicated that there is a possibility of warpage if you case harden first. Call Blanchard's and ask them if they think you should anneal the action first, do the work, and then reharden.
31 March 2005, 19:38
HP Shooter
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
anneal the action first, do the work, and then reharden.


That's what I would do.
31 March 2005, 19:40
D Humbarger
Use a VZ/24 action instead.



Doug Humbarger
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31 March 2005, 20:15
mete
Depending on how they HT. If the final hardness is no more than 40-45 Rc [that's how they should do it] then it would be better to machine after HT to eliminate any warpage problems.
31 March 2005, 20:18
z1r
I've always done my clean up & machining first and never had a warpage problem.

IMHO, warpage has more to do with the method than with what you done to the action.




Aut vincere aut mori
01 April 2005, 10:26
snowcat
I guess I was wondering about scale developing in small screw holes etc. with the re-hardening process. I'll call them--
Would you re harden the bolt on a WW1 action?


Jay Kolbe
01 April 2005, 18:03
z1r
quote:
Originally posted by snowcat:
I guess I was wondering about scale developing in small screw holes etc. with the re-hardening process. I'll call them--


Of course you need to give it a final polish afterward but that is an entirely different thing than machining it afterward.

quote:

Would you re harden the bolt on a WW1 action?


YES.




Aut vincere aut mori
04 April 2005, 04:08
woodman0663
What is the name of the company that you send your action for heat treating. I have mauser that I am working on and need someone to heat treat it for me. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
04 April 2005, 05:45
craigster
I just recently recieved back a 1909 Argentine that I sent to Pacfic Metalurgical in Kent, Wa. Turnaroun time was about a week. The action is now 36HRC and the bolt 47HRC. No warpage, but there was a small amount of scale that had to be dealt with. Website www.pacmet.com.
04 April 2005, 05:46
D Humbarger
Craigster how much did it cost?



Doug Humbarger
NRA Life member
Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73.
Yankee Station

Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo.
04 April 2005, 05:51
craigster
Doug,
It was $85 plus shipping for both pieces.
04 April 2005, 08:46
Atkinson
Not an action I would use, but to each his own..I would anneal the action then have it brought back up to specs, thats the only way I would do it...


Ray Atkinson
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Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

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