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Will a 6.5 x 54 MS fit...
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In a short action?
 
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Short action what?
 
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Model 70
 
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The 6.5x54mm when loaded with its traditional 160-grain RN bullet has an OAL approaching 3". The M70 short action has a magazine length that will accommodate cartridges about 3.06" long. So, the cartridge will fit but the MS case is smaller in diameter than the standard .308 bolt face. A better choice would be the 6.5 x 47mm Lapua or a 6.5 Creedmoor which have similar, if not improved, ballistics and readily available components.
 
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COAL is 3.063" which puts it close to the 7x57 in terms of length (3.070"). For comparison, a 7mm-08 is 2.80". A short action M70 can be opened up for the 7x57 and I suspect the same would be the case with the 6.5x54mm.

Edited to add: I guess Roger and I posted at the same time-- he's right, build a Creedmoor (or a .260).
 
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Krikey...the best laid plans...
 
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Yeah, listen to Roger; he and I were in ROTC together and he knows his stuff. We were both gunsmithing way back then too.
He was known as RA then; Regular Army.
 
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Not only would the small rim diameter be a pain, but where are you going to get the ammo or cases? If you've got some, perhaps you could sell them to me for my old MS Wink and make your rifle up in something more modern.
 
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Not only would the small rim diameter be a pain, but where are you going to get the ammo or cases? If you've got some, perhaps you could sell them to me for my old MS Wink and make your rifle up in something more modern.


I made a special die to swage down 308's to 6.5 Jap. I also found it that it would swage down 7x57 for 6.5MS which I did because I built one on a Savage 110. I didn't have any problems with the 308 bolt head as we know the 7x57 case fits it just fine.
 
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Not only would the small rim diameter be a pain, but where are you going to get the ammo or cases? If you've got some, perhaps you could sell them to me for my old MS Wink and make your rifle up in something more modern.



Who says ammo or brass is a problem?

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Well, I guess I’ll have to go another route. My brother suggested the Creed right away...just not sure I can do it... ;-)
 
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Good to see, assuming it's any good. It's certainly cheap enough. Getting it to Australia might be another matter, 'cause it was like hens teeth around here, last time I looked. I must check to see if the local Midway brings it in.
 
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I can see the point re the 6.5CM. However the 6.5x55 is just about as old as the 6.5x54MS and steeped in as much history, but ammo is still readily available.
 
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