Here is what I do to Mosin Nagant rifles; makes them more user friendly.
This one is going to be a 500 S&W although I have put all manner of cartridges on them. (Such as 9.3x62 and 375 Flanged Mag) Especially now that we know that Mausers are death machines waiting to kill us, the Mosin is super strong.
Yes that is a Mauser Bolt handle and Boyds stock.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Especially now that we know that Mausers are death machines waiting to kill us

I hope that bolt handle won't hurt anyone's feelings. You might have to send the knob out to be re-cased. And wear 2 masks while boxing it up.

Good advice; I will look into that.

Like the action work thumb holes just not my style

Boyds makes non thumbholes too. The owner likes these and they do work well. And are indestructible.

Everything just doesn't have to be a $10,000 custom. There is so much room in between, and besides, who wants to get killed by one of them Mausers just lying in wait.

I'm guessing the thumbhole will help tame the recoil of a light, 500 S&W rifle.

It does, but people like them because they are drop in, no gaps, and best of all, $128!
I give all the $TenK and up clients to DW. Mine are on the somewhat lower end of the scale.
And right, all Mausers will definitely kill you which is why I started building on Mosins. I threw all the Mauser actions in the scrap bin. I kept the bolt handles though. Weld them on the Russians. Now I have a pile of cut off Russian handles if anyone needs one.

I'm sure the Mosin is a fine action, I just can't get past how it looks. I reckon I'll just have to stick with my flimsy old death trap Mausers.

That is why I move the bolt handle and weld on a bridge.
It is not to be compared to a Mauser; it is a totally different animal in every design detail.
What it does do, is handle escaping gas, very well, and has locking surfaces that Mauser never dreamed of.
They are not for everyone, or every purpose. Like every rifle design, they fit a unique niche.

One nice feature is that the locking lugs are horizontal at battery vs vertical, as in most other designs. That way the lug abutments are backed by the rails rather than nothing. The massive guide rib is indestructible. Some have an inner ring like a Mauser and some don't, I've read. They have an enclosed cartridge head feature too. I had the notion once to get rid of the heavy cocking piece by modifying the bolt to accept a Krag shroud and cocking piece. Never got around to experimenting though, and not even sure it would work. Are you doing anything with the trigger guard to streamline it and make it a bit more aesthetic?

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Originally posted by dpcd:
That is why I move the bolt handle and weld on a bridge.
It is not to be compared to a Mauser; it is a totally different animal in every design detail.
What it does do, is handle escaping gas, very well, and has locking surfaces that Mauser never dreamed of.
They are not for everyone, or every purpose. Like every rifle design, they fit a unique niche.

Up until about 1942 they had the inner ring, and then they deleted it.
I use the original mag box depending on the cartridge; sometimes I just make a two shot mag in the stock. still has to be a straight line feed because of the cartridge interruptor system.
I have also made them single shot like for the 375 Flanged Mag; too long for the mag.
Definitely not going to replace the Mauser design but it is interesting anyway.

dcpd -- I'm very pleased with the job you did putting together my .405 Grenadier. The rifle looks and shoots great.

What would you think of a 270 or 300 wsm on a Mosin?

Is it correct, that on the Mosin, the lugs are flat and cammed in by the rear of the guide rib? Thus, giving more surface area in contact with the receiver. Conversely, the sloped surface of the front ring acts as the primary extraction cam?

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Up until about 1942 they had the inner ring, and then they deleted it.
I use the original mag box depending on the cartridge; sometimes I just make a two shot mag in the stock. still has to be a straight line feed because of the cartridge interruptor system.
I have also made them single shot like for the 375 Flanged Mag; too long for the mag.
Definitely not going to replace the Mauser design but it is interesting anyway.

I've always had a thing for guns with the protruding mag, Mosins, Carcano's etc, and they can be made into really nice looking sporters....







Roger

political joke-

Is that all it would take to fix Putin? Weld a bolt handle on him?

Onto his brain housing group.
Bobster; yes.
Yuma; you just reminded me of something; I have an old Fajen 91 Mannlicher stock stashed away somewhere...

dpcd builds guns for the one percenters.... not the Elon Musk type 1%.
Thank goodness we still have someone who will build something besides an AR platform rifle!

...I'm with you on that ,Tony

Roger

Timan; the bolt face on the Mosin is .550; to do the 270 the bolt face would have to be bushed; which is not hard to do, and for the WSM; it is sloppy but the extractor will hold as is.
Yes, the 400 Grenadier is a really cool round.
Lots of possibilities for creative minds.
Warped minds.

I picked up a Mosin carbine a dozen or so years ago. The trigger was pretty creepy and about a mile long, so I reworked it and refined the front sight. I zapped a coyote with it the other day 125yds off hand 174gr FMJ poked perfect hole in her heart and no pelt damage. She sprinted 30 or so yards before figuring out she was dead.
often thought of doing a bolt handle job to it.

Timney makes a civilized trigger for them. With safety.
If you want a bolt handle, I will trade you a modified bolt with a low scope handle, for a stock one.

Tom.
How about making one up with a Lyman 36 peep sight ?

J Wisner

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I picked up a Mosin carbine a dozen or so years ago.

30 or so years ago a 12yoa boy was given one for his first deer rifle.

His dad asked be where he should take him hunting

I told him the spot to go. 30 minutes after shooting time he shot the biggest buck of his life.

Later that season all the youngsters were complaining about being dogs/drivers.

So I told them we would have a shooting contest those that hit closest to the bull. Could take their turn as standers.

Well the young man with the Mosin stood a lot.

He out shot several adults.

Yes, I used to see them (and cut down Enfields) in the woods in the early 60s; you could order them directly from Sears and Wards for $9.95. Before the GCA of 68 made licenses required for mail order, for you young guys. Blame Oswald.
As for peep sights; could be done. But no one wants those any more. Scopes.

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Yes, I used to see them (and cut down Enfields) in the woods in the early 60s; you could order them directly from Sears and Wards for $9.95. Before the GCA of 68 made licenses required for mail order, for you young guys. Blame Oswald.
As for peep sights; could be done. But no one wants those any more. Scopes.

I was never any good with open sights. Most of my rifles have peep sights under their scopes, and two of the Savage 24s just have peep sights.
The Savage 24V has QD mounts, since the whole point was an antelope/sage grouse gun and scope is not needed when walking sage flats.

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Blame Oswald.

No blame the communist's in the Democrat and Republican parties.

They were trying long before Oswald.

Lee Harvey Oswald ordering his Carcano directly from Kleins sporting goods was the direct impetus for the GCA of 68. And of course, liberals voting for it.