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I'm looking at a Model 70 .375 that has a new laminated stock. I asked a question about accuracy and bedding and received the following reply. I think it's a very honest reply, I'm just not sure of the significance so I'd appreciate comments from the experts here. "The rifle has had approximately 180rounds through it. I have 80 pcs of once-fired brass from the previous owner (2nd owner). I have fired the rifle 9 times (three 3 shot groups) to get the rifle sighted in. The last group that I fired in the rifle was 1.25" at 100yds with a PMC 270gr Pointed softpoint. I have not used any other ammo in the rifle - the Remington 270gr SP or Federal 300gr NP have not been tested by me in this one, but the previous owner did use it as that is what the once-fired brass is from. As far as the bedding-- the rifle was bedded by my riflesmith here in XXXXXX XX. A shim was required under the floorplate at the front action screw to make the bottom metal level and provide a positive latching of the floorplate when it is closed. The shim(a washer) was epoxied into the bottom of the floorplate inletting, and the floorplate latches and stays latched during recoil." Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's supposed to do. | ||
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Sounds like the guy is being extremely up front and detailed and has provided you with a hell of allot more information than most sellers do. If the rifle will shoot groups like he claims I certainly wouldn’t worry about the shim under the trigger guard. It sounds like his smith diagnosed and fixed a problem so that leads me to believe that he checked the rifle over pretty good. | |||
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Nothing you wrote would be of concern to me. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Never fired it in a .375, but PMC is usually loaded extremely hot in other cartritges. I'd bet that gun will do better with different ammo. | |||
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1.25" with factory ammo is very acceptable. I suspect you could get this rifle sub moa with handloads Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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