Has anyone actually done this on a Sako. What are the results. Any problems?

I am concerned at bolting on a heavy recoiling rifle without a recoil lug - even though HS precision stocks have an aluminium bedding block.

I will be posting this topic on African Big Game forum also.

Regards,
John

I have had one on order for my L691 in 3006 for the last 8 weeks or so. They quoted me 6-8 weeks to delivery, when I called they said tehy were a little backed up.

FYI, Magnum Research used a slightly modified version of the L691 action for thier mountain eagle rifles, this is how the HS stock design came about.

From what Janet at HS has told me, the stock is a true drop in.

If you ever look at the recoil lug on the L691, it is not very imprssive at all, in fact it barely qualifies as a recoil lug in my book. I do not see how a machined piece of aluminum would be alot weaker then the original.

reguards

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I have installed a stock from H-S Precision on a Sako rifle like yours, and I cannot remember any problems with it.

If I remember rightly, there is a small metal "ring" around the screw hole on the front of the action. This normally fits into a recoil lug as Sako supllies it. On the H-S stock, it fits into the aluminium bedding block

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www.accuratereloading.com

I imagine a small round stud protruding 1/4" or so beneath the action, this fits into a recoil lug snugly. When the action is bolted to the stock, it holds the small stud into the lug. It works well on the guns, I just shot a bunch of .900" groups the other day at 200 yards with 180 grain bullets from my 3006 using this system.

Bill

Saeed from what you say and also from Don G, should be OK to fit without the recoil lug. In fact the lug will be integral ie. the aluminium bedding block.

Stonecreek the post 1991 Sakos have a removeable recoil lug. An angle piece of aluminium. Probably a cost reduction thing being cheaper to manufacture. Doesn't seem to affect accuracy though.

Bill do you know what else Magnum research does to customise the Sako action.

Thanks,
John

I have added a recoil lug like a Remingtons to a Sako action that came without one. I just modified teh stock to take this lug.

Of course, you can only do this if you are rebarreling the action. The gentleman I built the rifle for swears it shoots much better now than it originally was.

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saeed@ emirates.net.ae

www.accuratereloading.com

On the model they now discontinued, the 691 action was adapted to take Remington 700 style bases insted of standard Sako. The rifle was also fitted with a Krieger bbl. The new nodels use a carbon fiber bbl.

Bill

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John
I recievd the HS stock yesterday, fit and finish were wonderful, very well made and the fit is perfect. Will shoot it this weekend to let you know how it does.

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Bill,

I am hoping that you have now shot your Sako with HS Precision stock. How did it go?

Regards,
JohnT

The stock came at 11 weeks, I was promised it in 6 to 8. I installed it and turned my 3/8 moa gun into one that barely holds 1 moa. I am going to try a little forend pressure to see if that helps. I got it in Prarie Grass camo, not as nice as it looks in the catalog picture by any means. (by the way, the Weatherby Desert Camo is very very nice, I own one custom gun from them in it and have just ordered a second)

As for the customer service at HS there is much to be desired. I called numerous times merely requesting an approxamate date of delivery and never recievd the promised call back. In fact, my friend purchased his stock for a 375 winchester the same day I did, called and got the exact same story when he called to check status "I will run out on the floor and see how long there expect and call you right back".

He bought a stock for a stainless model 70 in 375, he talked to the women for 15 minutes and was very specific asking her whether or not the stock woul fit his gun without modification, he was assured that this would be the case. When he got the stock he needed to take it to the gunsmith becasue so much of the bbl channel needed to be taken out.

While right up until I purchased this stock people seemed to sing the praises of HS, I now find may shooters around here with similar negative experiences.

I will view this as a $300 mistake, if your gun already shoots leave it alone. If not maybe it is worth the price, besides the fact that it MAY aide you in achiving better accuracy at least the gun will be more duable for field use.

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Stock didn't drop in. I called HS they said the barrel channel had to be relieved, and they'd be happy to do it for $40 extra, send them the gun. I took it to a local gunsmith, who did that and bedded the recoil lug for $50.

Rifle went from 2 MOA pre-HS to 6 MOA post-HS. In addition, the floorplate doesnt latch properly; after 1 round the magazine contents are laying at your feet.
Which doesnt much matter since you can't hang on to the gun anyway. Without any checkering on the forend, there is no control and the gun wants to fly out of your weakhand, so its one shot then start running.

A BIG WASTE OF $$$.

I have recommmended them many times and this is the first negative feedback I've had. I am sorry for your troubles.

I wonder if I've just been lucky, or if their quality has gone downhill?

Don

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Stonecreek,

I imagine a small round stud protruding 1/4" or so beneath the action, this fits into a recoil lug snugly. When the action is bolted to the stock, it holds the small stud into the lug. It works well on the guns, I just shot a bunch of .900" groups the other day at 200 yards with 180 grain bullets from my 3006 using this system.

Bill

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Bill,

I've just got a HS Precision stock for my Sako L691 .375 H&H. Model PSS 39 in Black w grey webbing. Looks great. Only problem when trying to fit action to stock its really tight where the circular lug around front action screw fits into the recess in the bedding block.

Can't get it to fit with normal hand pressure. Had to grease it, fitted better but action still rocked. Then I put floor plate on & used screw tension to pull it in. Did you find this too? I'm not sure if it is fully seated yet. Put quite a bit of tension on with a Chapman screw driver then used the ratchet wrench to torque further.

Rear action fits beautifully.

Have started a new post as well on this matter. You Don & Saeed have positive experience on these stocks. Other on this thread not so.

Any advice?

Thanks,
JohnT

In retrospect I wish I did not buy the stock from HS, the fact that it made my rifle all weather at the expense of accuracy is understandable. However I do not like dealing with a company such as HS that has lousy customer relations, next time I will try bell and carlson or McMillan.

If I can be of any help, feel free to ask.

You've got me worried now. HS are about the only ones with a drop in stock for HS. I Australia they are the only one. Have you perservered & tried to find a load that will shoot with the new stock & bedding arrangement.

In your 30-06 once installed is your barrel free floating? If so have u tried any upward pressure near the foreend.

Have not shot mine yet. Tying to get some feedback on the installation before I do anything wrong.

Regards,
JohnT

I placed some brass shim stock under the front of the bbl and the gun did shoot a little better then free floated.

I have to admit that while the gu isn't as acciurate it is capable of harder field use now.

My main problem with HS was thier lousy customer service, I feel I am entitled to good service as a paying customer. I am sure that you will be happy with your stock once you get it to fit.

I was told that you could use small files or a mill to enlarge the opening. If you made it too big I guess you couls always bed it.

There is no reason why an HS Precision stock should reduce accuracy

Good luck, and let us know how you get on.
Don

Bill & Don G I shot my .375 Sako with the HS Precision Stock yesterday and it was fine. I can't say that it shot any better but my handload of 78grains of W760 with 300gn RN Woodleighs produced 2 holes touching then the 3rd opening it up to 3/4 inch at 100 metres. Can't complain about that.

Thanks Mike 375 for that load data, spot on for accuracy.

Even though the fit around the recoil lug is tight (or maybe because of it) my experience with HS Precision stock has like Don G's been positive. My rifle absolutely loves the Winchester Supreme 270gr ammo & its still does so it does not appear to change anything. The improvement is that even if barrel is hot it does not seem to string the shots as before because now it is fully floated.

Regards,
JohnT