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Hello, Have as a donor action, near New SS Rem 700 SA action, Ross steel bottom, Jewell Trigger, bolt face is .473" and easy access to Douglas barrels. I have big bores(.375 up,) just completed a VZ24 in 9.3x62 and would like to build one more rifle with the thought of it being used for game of no more than 200 lbs and distances of up to 350 yds. As a gunsmith, what would you suggest? (I know some will say to discard the Rem. action, but not an option.) Looking for as much "bang for the buck" as practical. | ||
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200 lbs, 350 yds, short action. Sounds like a perfect situation for any of the 308 based cartridges from 243 to 358. | |||
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How about this 6.5x284 using the Norma or Lapua brass. Or 358 Winchester and maybe you use it for other stuff too? Or 250 Savage? Or 284 Winchester? I have a stack of guns I want to build, but all of the above on M700 short actions are on that list. Here's my idea This stock:  Or this one:  Octagonal barrel of light varminter contour 22 to 24 inches long. And the best wood you can find! Jewell trigger, Talley mounts, and your into it for under $2500 excluding the scope. Using Pac-Nor for the barrel, and Great American gunstocks for the stock. | |||
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The 280 Remington. If that isn't custom enough make it a 7x64. | |||
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It's a short action, which rules out the .280 class cartridges as well as the 6.5x284 if you wish to take full advantage of the bullet, powder combo that 6.5x284 is capable of. So, I would second Eddie's recommendations and suggest pausing a bit longer when looking at the 338 Federal cartridge. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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If your like me and your going to shoot 120 grain rockets out of the 6.5x284 then the short action is fine! 338 Federal, EEEEK how offensive! That's not an western cartridge at all! But then again, if I built a 358 Winchester I would shoot 250s out of it. | |||
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Because you limit the range t 350 yards or so, the 6.5/284 offers little advantage over the .260 Rem. The .260 would be my choice for sure.  Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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Yep, no doubt about it, the .260 Remington is the one.. Light recoil, fine accuracy and kills game exceedingly well.. Just this morning I chronographed some 120's at 3,000 fps.. Treading on the heals of the .270.. | |||
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Another vote for the .260. Sounds like a perfect fit to me. | |||
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Nope you all got it wrong. 7mm-08 is the way to go or 284 Win. The 358 & 338 are gonna have too much drop out past 300 yds.  Mike Never under estimate the internet community to use any opportunity to reply to a post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence problem.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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.260 first choice, 338 Federal, very close second.  | |||
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I'll cast my vote for the .260 as well. Would require the least amount of modification and bullet selection is second to none. John Farner If you haven't, please join the NRA! | |||
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Hello driver, .280 Ackley Improved | |||
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Hello, In addition to the many fine suggestions here, others I have spoken with highly suggest the the 260 caliber. Cartridge has been used for sometime by match shooters and known as 308/6.5 and assume it is the same round?? Should not be a problem converting 308 brass to the round should it?? Anyway, thanks for all the feedback and can now get started. | |||
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7-08 or .308 and be done with it. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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As much as I like the 260 (18) and 6.5-284 (3), I'd suggest looking at the 25-284. If I was limited to 1 varmint/deer rifle, it would be a 25-284 built along the lines of a Remington 700 LSS MR. Although many people question the small magazine capacity caused by using the 284 case, I think that the 1st shot that you get is probably your best and if you don't think that you can score with your 1st shot, maybe you should try getting closer or to a better angle. Jeff | |||
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25-284 is my second only because bullet seleciton is not as good. I built one for myself on a Montana 1999 and it is light to carry, shooots very flat and has virtually no recoil. Hope to use if for deer this fall. John Farner If you haven't, please join the NRA! | |||
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Ditto Standard dies will save $150+ bucks on the project. Use the $$ on a wood or scope upgrade. Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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I'm with the 260 rem crowd.....but the 7-08 is nearly equal...great rounds both of them /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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The 7mm08 tack driver will always be my favorite caliber. | |||
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Sorry, missed the short action part of your post. Looks like you're heading in a good direction. | |||
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Screams out .260 remingotn to me. I'd slap a 1x8 twist on it, and have at er. | |||
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6.5-284...because you can always load it down to 260 Rem specs. It has '06 capacity or nearly so, so you shoot at 260 velocity at lower pressure. Rich DRSS | |||
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260 or a 7/08. The short action limits you a bit. | |||
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