hello to all out there. I have a win M70 Coyote that I purchased new a couple years back. I fired it and the casing was very difficult to extract. I tried to put the fired casing through the reloader and it wouldn't go into sizing die. I put the caliper to it and it had expanded a few thousandths.

So this tells me that the chamber was overbored?
am I correct in this?

I called winchester and told them and they said that it wasn't a warranty item and that i would have to send it back to them and have them put in a new barrel and pay for the whole thing.

Well that pissed me off enough to where I just put it in the back of the safe.

Until now. I would like to get a new barrel but am not sure as to which company I should go with? Any sugestion?
What is the best way to go about this? Should I send it to the company I choose and have them install it, or is it just as easy to order the barrel and have a local gunsmith install it for me?

I am very lost and could use any suggestions, tips, or input you all can give me.
Thank you
Anthony

Anthony,

There is hardly a factory gun who's chamber isn't a bit over sized. What caliber is it?

I would recommend taking it and your dies to a gunsmith and have him check them before drawing any conclusions as to a fix. It might be as simple as a rough chamber needing a little polish, and a resizing die that's a little out of whack.

I'd almost bet there's nothing at all wrong with the barrel!

To your question.....Douglas is a fine barrel maker.....available, good quality, and reasonably priced.....

What caliber is it?

The caliber is .243 super short.
I will take to a gunsmith and have him double check for me.
But there was a very larger difference in fired brass and an unfired round. they were several thousands over.

i hope that you are correct and that it is just a rough chamber.

thank you again
Anthony

If the chamber is a bit more oversized than usual, make lemonade. You can neck size, which can be good for accuracy, and you have more case capacity, which is good for velocity. I'd say it looks like a win, win.

HMMMMM? never looked at it that way. A thought to ponder.

Thanks
Anthony

In my accuracy workup business, I have had many bad experiences with super shorts. Hard bolt lift after firing, need to FL resize every time or cartridge won't chamber, etc. Resizing was tough, but a light coat of Imperial sizing die wax on the brass works. I solved the problem by cutting about .010" off the top of the shell holder so I could size the case a bit more (not .010" but maybe .002). You could do the same by cutting off the bottom of the die, but shell holders are cheap if you screw it up. Maybe the reloading die companies need a line of small base dies for these calibers?

I had a very similar problem with my rifle when I first got it. I was sizing the brass all the way down to where the mouth of the die contacted the shellholder. Some rounds would chamber, others would not and many were tough to get out of the chamber. I thought the rounds were a bit too fat, so I then tried running them through the die three times to really squeeze them down. That did not work so well either, so I went to my gunsmith and asked him to ream the chamber .001 inches deeper. He told me the chamber in my rifle was the very first one ever to be cut with that reamer and that the headspace had been meticulously checked. My gun is a target rifle built on an MRC action, I had been waiting a long time for it to be completed and had spent a fortune on it, so he was very, very attentive to the whole chambering process. The problem was that the shoulder was in the wrong place. It's been almost three years since I was told exactly what the problem was, so I don't remember what he told me. I do know he machined off .015 inches from the shellholder and we adjusted the space between the mouth of the die to the shellholder to .0025 inches. I full-length resize, right down to the bottom of the stroke, and the cases now chamber like butter with a headspace of .002 inches.