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Do I need any sort of licensing to install custom bolt handles on customer rifles?

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07 July 2015, 23:01
Tyler Kemp
Do I need any sort of licensing to install custom bolt handles on customer rifles?
A buddy and I are considering getting into some gun work as a startup business. Say we were to offer custom bolt handle designs, and installation on guns where there would be some metalwork involved.

Beyond an FFL to get the action shipped to us, is there any other legal concerns to worry about?


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Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

07 July 2015, 23:24
z1r
One requirement for getting an FFL is that you are in compliance with all state and local rules/regs. I suggest you start there.




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08 July 2015, 00:08
Stokes
Are you planning on cutting the root off the bolt? If not, why have them ship the action? If they just send the bolt, and your jurisdiction requires it, you could get away with just a business license. No receiver, no FFL needed.
08 July 2015, 00:58
dpcd
Just your local business rules, if there are any.
08 July 2015, 11:10
kcstott
Technically incorrect.

the ATF has a long list of what they consider regular gunsmithing and manufacturing.

Under the long drawn out rules of the ATF if you perform any work on firearms as a regular course of business you are a gunsmith and need a FFL,

My Area requires two permits, a State FFL if you will and a business license so four licenses or permits total


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08 July 2015, 13:45
Stokes
While Mr. Stottlemyer is correct on that account, it has also been ATFs position that a bolt, in and of itself, is not a firearm, so working on just a bolt would not be working on a firearm.

This is why there are plenty of gun parts makers and other machine shops that do not, and are not, required to have an FFL.

I've heard this opinion from my ATF inspector, and have heard other accounts corroborating it. A strict reading of the law would also suggest this to most reasonable men. I have not heard of ATF ever pursuing trouble with someone in this sense.

Of course, your mileage may vary, and your nerves might dictate different choices than what others have made.
08 July 2015, 16:19
p dog shooter
quote:
My Area requires two permits, a State FFL if you will and a business license so four licenses or permits total



What else would one expect from CA.
08 July 2015, 20:31
Tyler Kemp
Thanks for the input guys.

I suppose a bolt is all that would be needed. We are working on a "secret project" where an extended bolt handle will be of use. Once we get further in the design stage I'll show you guys, I don't think anything like it has been done before!


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.