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Have any of you tried this before? I have a birch stock on one of my rifles. It is ugly as sin! Maybe some kind of textured paint and sealant???? Any help would be appreciated.

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Posts: 3865 | Location: Cheyenne, WYOMING, USA | Registered: 13 June 2000Reply With Quote
<Bill Tompkins>
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POP,
This is an excellent way to cover up and older plain stock. Sand it lightly and degrease thoroughly and paint using several thin coats as opposed to a couple heavy ones. There are some textured paints available in the paint departments of Wal-Mart, K-Mart, etc. When sprayed on they leave a pebbled texture and are available in several colors. Just be careful in the cheek area, it will need a little sanding.
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I've had some good results doing ugly stocks with spray on truck bed liner. I know it sounds odd, but it's thick, durable, and has a nice texture. Comes in basic black. It's available in spray cans in the automotive section of Wal-K-Marts.

Here's a Swedish Mauser sporter that had a nasty hardwood stock:

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Posts: 497 | Location: Lewistown, PA USA | Registered: 21 December 2000Reply With Quote
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Pop, I use either trunk paint (auto parts places) it gives a really nice look and a good feel, or I do a camo patern, I do a flat base coat of a single color, then use leaves and branches at masking templates. This looks good, but it is a little slippery. To fix this, before I paint the stock, I mask off the gripping portions of the stock and spead a THIN coat of acra-glass epoxy where I want the texture, then sprinkle clean dry sand into the epoxy, pat it in a little bit, and wait for it to dry/set before painting.


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I spray my stocks with Gas Grill flat black paint, Usually 2-3 light coats.

Then around the grip areas I give it a shot of Brownells SPRAY GRIT Black.

Works like a charm.

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Posts: 3996 | Location: Hudsonville MI USA | Registered: 08 June 2000Reply With Quote
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What do you guys use as a sealant? I have tried trunt paint with a Polyureathane sealant and it does not work. After one day or so of handling it comes off and you can see the original stock (especially in the forearm and pistol grip areas).

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Posts: 3865 | Location: Cheyenne, WYOMING, USA | Registered: 13 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I like the trunk paint idea. I think I will try that on an old Mauser I have. Thanks

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Posts: 614 | Location: Miami, Florida USA | Registered: 02 March 2001Reply With Quote
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What do you guys use as a sealant?

POP-

Try Testor's matte clear. Look in a hobby shop for it. Works good, but be sure to put it on soon after painting, and *absolutely* before you touch the painted stock. I made the mistake once of handling the freshly painted (but dried) stock, then clear-coating it. When it dried, I had perfect fingerprints of a "silvery" haze everywhere that I touched the stock & the clear didn't adhere. Sanded it all back down & started over...

 
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My apologies in advance for offending anyone,but, I don't use any of the crap listed above. I have tried various spray bomb sh!t,some worked better than others but none lasted very long.
What I use is an industrial automotive paint made by the ENDURA MANUFACTURING CO. LTD. Edmonton,Alberta. The paint is called "Endura". I add a "flattener"(from Endura)so the paint is not glossy and a small amount of texture solution or anti-leveler(from Endura) so that the paint has a little texture. I then spray the stock the desired color. Let's say grey. Once the paint on the stock is set up a little, I add a lot of texture solution to a small amount of black paint. When this mixture is sprayed at low air pressure, it comes out like a spider web or spatter. It covers fairly even. The stock stays gray but then has a black pattern or design similar to what you get from the textured spray cans but better. It is easy to do, just practice on a piece of cardboard a little first. You will need a automotive spray gun to do this. A cheapie will do.
I know it sounds like a lot of work but it is the only way that I know of that gives your gun a professional look that lasts. I have done stocks that have been in a saddle scabbard for months at a time and on a snowmachine as well and the finish does not wear off. Bug dope does not even soften it. I have lost a little paint on one rifle after I slipped and fell in some rocks. A few small chips and a gouged up scope. I have about 100.00 Canadian(small change U.S.)
invested in paint material. I can do about 3-4 rifle stocks with that. It is a little more work than the spray cans initially but it should last the average guy a life time.
Maby this method is a little over kill for what you want, it is your choice. If you need more info or directions, just let me know.

Daryl

 
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<Gary Rihn>
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Daryl-

Sounds like a nice way to go, but beyond the Average Joe's capabilities.

Besides, the guns I paint go hunting, not benchrest or anything like that, so if they get scratched & need touched up now & then, that's OK.

 
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SamB... Very interesting! Can you describe the method you use and exactly waht the product is called? How do you prep the stock? How many coats usually and how long to dry? Thanx to all for the responses!

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Posts: 3865 | Location: Cheyenne, WYOMING, USA | Registered: 13 June 2000Reply With Quote
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Hey SamB,

I just tried your spray in bed liner idea. It looks pretty good and it cost me under $7 for supplies. I pracitced on an old Marlin .22 that I had laying around.

Thanks for the tip.

Al Smith

 
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On a Mini-14 I have used ordinary flat black epoxy spray paint to bare wood, 2 coats. I then topped with low gloss tung oil, 3-5 coats. The result is reasonably durable and very easy to touch up. I may soon add ceramic grit for gripping when icy wet as the palm is smallish.
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Have any of you tried this before? I have a birch stock on one of my rifles. It is ugly as sin! Maybe some kind of textured paint and sealant???? Any help would be appreciated.


 
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Hiya POP,

after inletting and installing a buttpad, prep only consisted of sanding with 100 grit. Taped off the buttpad and sprayed two coats of flat black Krylon. I then taped off the inletting and gave it two coats of "Dupli-Color Truck Bed Coating". It's definitely a coating more than a paint. It's very thick. Dries pretty quickly (a few hours), and after the first coat you'll be able to see where you need to go back and fill in. The end result looks and feels much like the average synthetic stock, only more solid.

Good luck and have fun!

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Posts: 497 | Location: Lewistown, PA USA | Registered: 21 December 2000Reply With Quote
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Pop,

Go to an auto parts store and ask for Dupli-Color Truck Bed Coating..
Take a look at the picture..
http://www.geocities.com/sormi/coat.JPG

 
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STOP!!!!! quit, I can't take any more, I'm gaging, spitting, coughing, going into convulsions, acute insomnia, Arrrrrrrrrrrrg

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I bought some krylon wrinkle finish from Brownells. This stuff is crap. I followed the directions exactly, but half of the stock has a beautiful wrinkle finish and the rest looks like it has been painted with gloss black. I'm going to strip the whole ting down try the trunk spray and ask Brownells if they can stop selling this crap. Bottom line don't buy this stuff.
 
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STOP!!!!! quit, I can't take any more, I'm gaging, spitting, coughing, going into convulsions, acute insomnia, Arrrrrrrrrrrrg


Ray-

Read the directions carefully. You need *good ventilation* when painting stocks. Now go open the windows & try again.

 
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Gary...you misunderstand the old guy. His "bad taste" detector kicked in and his "tacky" sign lit up
 
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Bill-

I figured out *exactly* what old Ray was saying.

He's really a synthetic lover under that wood lover veneer. Don't let him fool you. Rumor has it that he's going to hang up the chisel & file, and get a mold to make new stocks with.

 
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I don't think Ray will ever come out of "that" closet.
 
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I have several friends that participate in the coyote calling competitions throughout the prairie states. If you want to see ugly rifles you should see their painted stocks. I think they just add another layer each time the weather and seasons change.

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Ray,

We are not painting over a Rigby or H&H... Just a $65.00 Birch rifle stock... But hey if you have a H&H or Rigby you want me to spray with Bubba truck liner spray send it over. I won't mind doing it for you....

 
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Birch with a dark reddish brown stain and a oil finish is tolerable and sometimes quite nice...A solid wood with strenth and not prone to warping...

Paint: A substance to swab over plastic, metal, plywood and various vulgar substances, some of it contains lead and carthenagens (sp.?) and other substances of modern culture designed to kill children and pets....

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Gents, (Ray aside, ha!) what most fiberglass stock makers use is Sherman Williams "Polane-T." It's a two-part urethane, but is a bit pricy. Many stock makers are now using "Zolatone." It's relatively inexpensive, and within most tinkerer's ability to use. They even make an inexpensive "sprayer" to apply it.

Brad

 
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I stripped the wrinkle finish off last night and tried the spray in bed liner today. In a word it looks awesome. Thanks for the tip.
 
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