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A couple of Mauser questions
28 December 2005, 06:43
WstrnhuntrA couple of Mauser questions
Can someone please tell me a bit about the M-24/47's? Specifically whether they are standard or intermediate length. As I understand it they are captured m-98's that were reworked by the Yugoslavs.??
Second question, what is the part that can be seen in these pics that goes in the triggerguard beneath the floorplate? Ive got several triggerguards with the hole going through the guard, but havent figured out the original purpose of said hole.
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=716073528 December 2005, 06:53
KurtCThe hole in the triggerguard is for an additional sling swivel. It was often used to shorten the sling when wrapped around the arm for target shooting. It does not appear on all mauser variants. More common on the original 29" barrel models.
28 December 2005, 09:27
James C ScottI think the 24/47 is an intermediate action. The 24/52, on the other hand is full length.
28 December 2005, 09:48
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by James C Scott:
I think the 24/47 is an intermediate action. The 24/52, on the other hand is full length.
M24, 47, 48, FN or Yugoslavian are all M98 intermediate actions. 8.500 oal vs 8.750 for a standard 98.
28 December 2005, 09:55
James C ScottI'd be interested in seeing a model 47 yugo mauser!
28 December 2005, 10:00
James C ScottSorry craigster, BUT they did refurb a bunch of VZ 24s.
28 December 2005, 10:03
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by James C Scott:
Sorry craigster, BUT they did refurb a bunch of CZ 24s.
Refurb all you want, but an intermediate action is still an intermediate action.
28 December 2005, 10:07
James C ScottForgot to add: those are the 24/52s. There has been a lot of confusion in the recent past because of the designation.
28 December 2005, 15:48
James C Scott"Your rifle started life as a Belgium designed model 1924. It has an intermediate length action making the bolt about a 1/4" shorter than the German mod 1898 "standard" and will not interchange with those. It may be Belgium made but most probably was made in Serbia.
This rifle was the standard for Serbian military through WWII and the basis for the later M48 series rifles."
HTH
29 December 2005, 02:11
Wstrnhuntrquote:
Originally posted by James C Scott:
I'd be interested in seeing a model 47 yugo mauser!
http://www.southernohiogun.com/surplusrifles.html Bottom of the page, Thanks for the replies.
How about those 1903/38's? Standard or intermideate? Could those possibly be the same as the 24/52 reworked vz24's?
29 December 2005, 06:32
Rojelio03/38's are German made actions. They use standard hole spacing bottom metal, but, the magazine boxes are shorter. Original chambering was 7.65 Belgium.
Bolts are intermediate, because the front ring is longer to the rear. They were notched at the back of the reciever ring to load 8x57 with stripper clips when they were converted in the 30's.
Large ring contour on outside, but, uses a small ring barrel with longer than standard threaded shank.
Rojelio
30 December 2005, 06:53
Ricochet"03/38" is an importer designation, as is "M38."
The "03/38" I just got for Christmas was refurbished in 1937. They did them throughout the '30s.
"A cheerful heart is good medicine."
30 December 2005, 07:35
RojelioYes, they are actually 1903 Turkish mausers furnished to the Turks by the Oberndorf factory in Germany. Originally chambered in 7.65 Belgium.
In the 30's they were re-arsenaled and converted to 8x57 for logistics reasons.
Rojelio
30 December 2005, 08:43
richjHere's a pic of a butcherized Yugo 24/47.
30 December 2005, 12:33
James C Scottquote:
Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr:
quote:
Originally posted by James C Scott:
I'd be interested in seeing a model 47 yugo mauser!
http://www.southernohiogun.com/surplusrifles.html Bottom of the page, Thanks for the replies.
Yep, That's a model 24.
The /47 designation generally denotes the year of adoption of the reworked configuration.
They are nice rifles.
How about those 1903/38's? Standard or intermideate? Could those possibly be the same as the 24/52 reworked vz24's?
30 December 2005, 18:40
Ricochetquote:
How about those 1903/38's? Standard or intermideate? Could those possibly be the same as the 24/52 reworked vz24's?
That question's already been answered, more than once. They're the intermediate length, Mauser Oberndorf built, M1903 Turkish Mauser, rebuilt by the Turks in the 1930s and converted from 7.65x53 to 7.92x57.
"A cheerful heart is good medicine."