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.308 Winchester on a long action ?
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I was wondering if anyone has built a .308 Win. on a long action ??? The reason I ask is that in the Remington 700 short action, the 168gr and 175gr bullets have to be seated very deep to still fit in the magazine.

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Two match guns - one mag fed, one single shot (Palma). The long action is nice in that five rounds fit in the unaltered mag and you can load to any length you please (short of 3.6"!!)

Feeds fine from the back of the long box.

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I have a 300WSM chambered in a long-action Montana Rifle Company. I can only feed one at a time. I have to put the round into the magazine, slap the bolt home, then pull it back to see if it actually caught the round. I have about a 90% success rate at this. One thing it will do is put any flinching on full display for all bystanders to see and then to make subsequent comments...

Considering the Remington is not CRF, you might get away with it. You don't in a CRF gun. At least, I don't in mine...
 
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Yes...and No!

Here in the UK we had converted many, many, 303 P-14 and 30-06 Model 1917 rifles into 308 target rifles.

The Model 1917 worked best as, of course, it used a correct shaped bolt and extractor from the start.

There were never any feeding problems with the conversions based on the Model 1917.
 
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I was wondering if anyone has built a .308 Win. on a long action ???

Most folks would chamber the long action to .30-06.

My Rem Short action handles the .308 with 180 accubonds quite nicely. I see no need for a long action for the .308.


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I have owned 4 differnt remington 700s in 308. Have never had a problem with col.

My mag boxes measure 2.873 and 2.876 om my two current ones.

Given that the SAAMI spec is 2.815 IIRC correctly (I think it just slightly over the 2.8 that everyone refers to) I am not sure what problem you are encountering.


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If I'm not mistaken, the Army (or Marines) used the long action to be able to convert them to a magnum by changing the bolt and barrel. I just heard this from somewhere so don't take it for gospel.
There's no reason in the world it won't work and you have the advantage of being able to seat long bullets out.


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popcornThe Mod. 98 actions allows you to seat the bullet out MUCH farther if you throat the barrel accordingly. I've had no feed problems. fishingroger


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Several Armies did it. The Israelies, the Spanish. How many others?
 
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