25 July 2005, 06:01
Art S.Silk Purse/Sow's Ear
I'm kinda speechless. Really don't know what to say about this gun or the ad. I'm not even sure exactly what they've done, but the guy is right about one thing; it's unique.
Silk Purse25 July 2005, 06:53
Old Elk HunterWhat a misplaced use of craftmanship.
25 July 2005, 07:02
CheechakoDon't judge it too quick fellas.
It all depends on when the work was done. At one time, long, long ago, the Eddystone was considered one of the best actions for conversion to a custom hi-power rifle. Believe it or don't, but there was a time when you couldn't order a custom action over the internet from any one of dozens of manufacturers.
Ray (An old guy who remembers what it was like 60 years ago.)
25 July 2005, 07:02
500grainsWhat would it cost to have the engraving ground off?
25 July 2005, 08:19
Art S.That was kinda my question.My reference was to the style, not the gun. If you look closely, its not engraving. Look at the action ring. It is some sort of overlay. I can't imagine what it is. Also, it looks like there is only one hole drilled in the front reciever ring for a scope mount. There is only one plug screw. It looks like incredible workmanship, but it is so rococco that I can't imagine it appealing to many people. The leatherwork on the scabbard certainly looks top notch.
25 July 2005, 08:41
vapodogAt $2,500 it's not going to move very fast.
25 July 2005, 08:41
Scota4570Eddystones are miserable hard. They can not be drilled with common tools. Once you have your hole, with your carbide drill, you have to figure out how to get a tap in and out in one piece. My point is that engraving such an action would be near impossible.
It must have been anealed. That would worry me. The next clue is that the scroll on the barrel is not smooth and well formed. This one stinks of an amatuer job to me.
25 July 2005, 15:51
jeffeossoYou guys must have a better picture than I do. I can't eval a 1917 without several to many more pics. I emailed the seller for those.
Yes, ALL 1917's are wicked hard, and a bear to tap, on the front ring always. That's probably setup for a 1 piece weaver, but impossible to know without a picture of the action, not just a funky monkey front ring shot.
While it COULD be in some rosewood lam thumbhole stock, and no sights.. and still full mill cock on close with mill trigger, I would need to know those before understanding it's value.
the biggest sow's ear on this one, is the caliber.. implied 30-06... why would you do all that work to a 30-06.
Scota, I think the engraving, where the stem turns poorly on the barrel shank, is an artifact of the photo, as I blew up the pic, and it looks like the photo is from a slight angle. I think that its "good enough", if it's engraved, if it's overlayed, well, i was never into lee (enfield) press-on nails
jeffe
25 July 2005, 17:18
El Deguelloquote:
Originally posted by Old Elk Hunter:
What a misplaced use of craftmanship.
Right! I'm leery of any 1917 that says EDDYSTONE on it....
Ray, I agree that the 1917 action was basically a good one for building magnum sporters. However, there were a number of Eddystone receivers that had cracks! Some of the cracks were caused by improper barrel removal techniques, due to the way the barrels were torqued on at the factory. But many had cracks that came from improper heat-treating as well. This was not true of the ones made in Ilion or by Winchester.
25 July 2005, 20:50
Scota4570quote:
But many had cracks that came from improper heat-treating as well.
The cracks were usually due to replacement barrels being over torqued by machine. they had some gorilla machine that brought the barrels to index by brute force. The barrel appears to be a GI barrel. Nottice it is nearly the same diameter as the receiver. That would make it over 1 1/4". Replacement barrels are usually 1 1/4".
25 July 2005, 22:09
Savage99quote:
the biggest sow's ear on this one, is the caliber.. implied 30-06... why would you do all that work to a 30-06.
I beg your pardon.