What are the pros and cons of these triggers for the Ruger M77 MKII? Which is more durable?

Thanks,
Dave

Dave,
My '77 MkII has a Timney, and I haven't looked back. Not quite sure what you mean by durable.
Rugeruser.

The Canjar is a more delicate trigger, simply because there are more parts to go wrong. Now having said that, I have a couple of Canjars (and I don't know how many Timneys) and the Canjar is by far the better trigger. For your average sporter (ie: your Ruger) I believe that the Canjar would be overkill, but it's your money. Keep in mind the Canjar will probably cost 3 times what the Timney does (and it's worth it, on the right rifle), and the wait time can be very long. FWIW - Dan

Like Dan I have three Canjar triggers (set type) and several Timney triggers. I love both and as Dan said on the right rifle they are wonderful. I have never had to change a Timney trigger once I set it before a hunt. The Canjar does take maintenance. If you do not want to get involved in learning how the trigger works and how to adjust it, go with the Timney. The Canjar trigger requires Allen wrenches to adjust it. I had one that had to be adjusted during a hunt. Without the right wrenches the rifle would have been useless.
Steve

Thanks for the help! Sounds like the Timney is what I'll go with. Sounds like the Canjar might be a better option on a higher-dollar gun.

By the way, does the Timney require adjustments after the initial setup? Any kind of maintenance (other than cleaning)?

Thanks again,
Dave

Just got two Krag triggers from Canjar took them five (5) years to deliver originally promised in six weeks - paid for five years ago too, they collected the interest on the payment during the interval. Never again.

Dave, the installation is a bit fiddly, you will have to grind a bit of metal off the part of the trigger that engages the safety. Some do it with a Dremel, I did it slowly with a grinding wheel, then a fine file. Go too far, and the safety won't work - it will release when you squeeze the trigger.

The trigger is adjustable for sear engagement, overtravel, and weight. All done by Allen screws (action out of stock), but once it was done in my rifle, I haven't even thought about it! All my rifles are hunting guns, and are not treated like princesses - they have to work when I want them to. If memory serves, I used the original Ruger spring, and set the weight to minimum. I have no idea what the let off weight is, but it's crisp, predictable, and suits me just fine. I did the install about 18 months ago (I think), and have fired several hundred rounds since then. I haven't noticed any changes in feel. No maintenance, as it's a really simple design, and this gun gets used in conditions ranging from dry dust (Outback Australia) to wet humid (New England and sub tropical rainforest). By the way, it's a 270win. Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Canjar is by far the best of triggers, but probably not needed on a hunting rifle...Actually I prefer the Blackburn trigger on a hunting rifle as the trigger itself lays in the rear of the trigger guard and is made of nicely machined steel...The timney has a ugly unfinished trigger IMO, and sits to far forward, but I am picky about such things on my rifles and such things would neither bother or even be noticed by most shooters......

For a hunting & plinking Model 77, I would recommend going with the Timney. They are a good basic trigger, with lapped sear engagement, and are easy to install and adjust.



The Canjar is a better trigger in some ways, especially if they make a single-set for the M77. (I've only had them on Sportco's, Model 70's, and Musgraves, so don't know if available for Ruger 77.)



The one thing I definitely did not appreciate in the Canjar single-set, was having to disassemble the trigger shoe to get the rifle and trigger out of the trigger guard and stock. That entailed punching out a tiny pin to disassemble, and more of a PITA, getting everything just right and punching the pin back in to reassemble. With my big fat fumble fingers, and the trigger shoe under spring tension, and having to do the work all inside the confines of the trigger guard, it wasn't impossible, but it wasn't fun either. I also wouldn't want to do it in the field for fear of dropping one of the little parts in the ground cover...



AC

rugeruser,

You have to do some filing on the Timney to get the safety to fit? Why don't they come pre-fit?

Ray - The Blackburn sounds interesting. Is it a better quality trigger than the Timney? Is it more durable? Easy to fit?

Thanks again,
Dave

Dave,
the Ruger trigger/safety mechanism relies on the safety lever obstructing (ie stopping) the rotation of the trigger lever. Obviously, if there is too much rotation, the sear will be released, gun go bang! In other words, the trigger / safety combination has to be fiited to each individual rifle. I guess manufacturing tolerances come into play here. Whether that's the case at the factory, I don't know, but I find it a small price to pay. It depends on how much sear engagement you want - mine is almost nil. Having said that, I rarely use the safety, as to me, there ain't no such thing, but occaisionaly, it's a (false) sense of security to feel that it won't go off if I get excited at the wrong time!! The other thing I like about the Timney is that it's an improvement on the original trigger group, rather than a remodelling of it - plus, it's really easy to clean and maintain, if you wan to. Go Timney (any chance of a sponsership from Timney here?)