After making a half dozen crossbolt wrenches for customers over the years I figured there might be a market for a wrench that fits a Talley crossbolt. Once I started manufacturing the wrench I thought why not make my own crossbolts that don't require annealing to cut with a file but made hard enough that the holes don't get buggered easily. And then once I started making crossbolts I thought, "why not make one that's different than what's already on the market." I started making crossbolts with three holes instead of two. Well, I've finally finished the first run of the wrenches and the crossbolts available in the standard two hole configuration and the three. Just PM me if interested.

In some cases Ive had Talley cross bolts wrenches that didn't fit the cross bolts. I solved the problem by having the points on on a couple of needle nose plires turned round so the fit any spacing..for what its worth.

I've done the same thing in the past with the pliers. Works pretty slick though I've found it to be a little nerve-racking to do on a finished stock, as I've slipped out a time or two with the pliers. The wrench will fit at least the Talley's I've used over the last couple of years and will definitely fit the crossbolts I make.

That's a good idea.

I hate the Winchester crossbolts, they have a tiny Allen head and strip with the slightest pressure. I buy extras just to have them.

Common snap ring pliers. They come in various sized needles. Fit's every size. Tough as hell. Been using them for years for cross bolts and double firing pin bushings.

Well this would have been nice to know before manufacturing hundreds of these wrenches and thousands of crossbolts Yes, the snap ring pliers will do the job and fit every size crossbolt out there. IMHO it's the difference between using pliers on your vehicle's bolts or using the proper fitting socket. They both will do the job, the latter is the proper tool designed to fit the bolt snuggly.

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Originally posted by speerchucker30x378:


Common snap ring pliers. They come in various sized needles. Fit's every size. Tough as hell. Been using them for years for cross bolts and double firing pin bushings.

I actually have cross bolt and firing pin bushing wrenches MNR. In fact I have a BOX FULL. I have made hundreds over the years from 1/2 inch hex stock and reamer blanks for pins. The only problem is that I don't have, and probably never will see the particular gun that those wrenches fit, EVER AGAIN!


In your infinite wisdom, all of you would be, pin-bolt engineers have never settled on an exact distance apart for the bloody pins. You also can't agree as to whether there should be two, three or any other number of pins. After you get that settled would you PLEASE get your collective shit together and figure out if the pins should be measured from centers, the insides of the pins or the outsides. While your at it, try to establish a uniformed size for the pins and agree as to whether all the pins should be cylindrical or tapered. After covering all of those bases try to hammer down a measurement system. Imperial, metric, Russian Arshins if you want. We don't care. Just pick one and STICK TO IT !

Sorry Speerchucker. I'm just attempting to walk the fine line of not knocking the way you've always done things while still making an argument for people buying my tool This whole marketing thing aint as easy as it looks

No not all crossbolts are spaced the same, that's why I'm hoping there's a market for a wrench that fits the most common crossbolt on the market as well as my own.

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Originally posted by MNR:
Sorry Speerchucker. I'm just attempting to walk the fine line of not knocking the way you've always done things while still making an argument for people buying my tool This whole marketing thing aint as easy as it looks

No not all crossbolts are spaced the same, that's why I'm hoping there's a market for a wrench that fits the most common crossbolt on the market as well as my own.

Don't worry MNR, you can't hurt my feelings I'm Canadian ! LOL

But if you have access to a CNC, I once saw a tool that a clock mechanic had for those fool things. It had one of those, spitting British dragons stamped on the side and I was so taken by it that I actually offered the guy $50 for it. Of course he told me to fuck off because I think it was the only one that he had ever seen too and it worked really slick. I always meant to make one but never got around to it. It was actually a forged tool. The shank was about 1/2 inch round and half round and the live jaw was half round. The live jaw was actually spaced with two grub screws with a beautiful countersunk screw on the other side to pull the jaws together. A real work of art, unlike my artwork. I can't remember if the pins were replaceable or not but I imagine that they were. You could set it between .200 and .300 inch spacing and I was so impressed that I've carried the image in my head for 20 years.

Whatcha think?

pin wrench by Rod Henrickson, on Flickr

I used to think Canadians had tough skin, but I've seen too many videos of Justin Trudeau sobbing uncontrollably to believe that anymore. Now I walk on eggshells around our Canadian friends

That is a fine looking wrench design! I do have cnc access and may just run with that idea. Thanks!

Sounds like you have an excellent product, and inasmuch as you make cross bolts to fit and guarantee them to fit, it can't go wrong..I would apprecieate a cost on the tool and the cross bolts to my email..also do you supply engraved cross bolt heads?

Thank you Ray. I do not offer engraved crossbolts, but I've used Mark Swanson out of Prescott, AZ in the past for crossbolt engraving. Does a great job! Email sent.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Sounds like you have an excellent product, and inasmuch as you make cross bolts to fit and guarantee them to fit, it can't go wrong..I would apprecieate a cost on the tool and the cross bolts to my email..also do you supply engraved cross bolt heads?

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Originally posted by MNR:
I used to think Canadians had tough skin, but I've seen too many videos of Justin Trudeau sobbing uncontrollably to believe that anymore. Now I walk on eggshells around our Canadian friends

That is a fine looking wrench design! I do have cnc access and may just run with that idea. Thanks!

Justine Turdo is a scum sucking, money grubbing, NANCY BOY! And he's going to leave us in worse debt and more divided than Buttwipe O'Bomber left you guys! Canadians are SO STUPID!

We'll trade you for The Don?
No?

Couldn't agree more Not about the Canadians being stupid though. We'll probably end up with Oprah next and then you guys can laugh at our misery again.

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Originally posted by speerchucker30x378:

Justine Turdo is a scum sucking, money grubbing, NANCY BOY! And he's going to leave us in worse debt and more divided than Buttwipe O'Bomber left you guys! Canadians are SO STUPID!

We'll trade you for The Don?
No?

MMR: I think it's a good idea...Can't see any reason for a three holer, however. Are the pins replaceable?

I sacrifice a Talley head to make my wrench. Drill the holes clear thru and solder in 1/16" pins. Put a handle on the other end to make a screwdriver style wrench. I make the shank about 6" long to aid in perpendicular.

Thank you Duane. I wondered if the three hole crossbolt would sell also, but surprisingly sold more of those than the standard two hole bolt down at the DSC show last week. Probably just because it's something new.

The pins are replaceable. They're a press fit. I milled the flats on the side of the body of the wrench to half of the depth of the pin holes. This left enough material for the pins to stop against, but gives access for a small punch to knock the pins out if needed.

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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
MMR: I think it's a good idea...Can't see any reason for a three holer, however. Are the pins replaceable?

I sacrifice a Talley head to make my wrench. Drill the holes clear thru and solder in 1/16" pins. Put a handle on the other end to make a screwdriver style wrench. I make the shank about 6" long to aid in perpendicular.

I make them from 1/2 inch hex stock. I just drill the holes in the mill and then if I'm really ambitious I turn the nose round. Then I just use a 1/2 inch socket to drive them. If I need to get nasty I clamp the socket into the mill and clamp the receiver (for firing pin bushings) or the stock in the mill vise. Then I put the mill in neutral and use the chuck wrench to turn the socket. If the wrench cant torque up under load you can get some hellish pressure and never bugger the part or wrench. I use hardened reamer blanks for pins. You can sometimes buy them on Ebay for scrap prices.

MNR:

Nice looking tool.

George