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I came to have a krieger unchambered barrel. it has buggered threads from a lathe incident, and was scrapped. If the shaft area were turned down, it would be a bitover .9 inches. what action can accept a .9 inch shaft for threading? thanks for the input. Jameister@aol.com | ||
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Is there enough cylinder length to cut off the tenon and start over? _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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someone will buy it on ebay if you cannot use it. i sold a couple of barrels with small tennons and soemone paid decent money for them | |||
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What are the barrel specs as is: bore, twist, length minus the boogered end, material? One of us might can use it. Mike Ryan - Gunsmith | |||
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Just because the threads are buggered does not mean they cannon be used. If the pitch is a common one the major diameter can be turned down and the existing thread can be picked up and single pointe to another pitch diameter. | |||
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Ebay doesn't allow barrels and a lot of other gun parts such as triggers, magazines, bullets, and brasss anymore. Where did all the take off barrels go to be sold? | |||
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OK measurements: labelled Krieger SS 308 Fwt. BO threads. from a gunsmith, perhaps a learning curve issue. Overall length is 27 inches. weight 2pounds 9 ounces diameter at widest cylinder 1.22 inches (finish polished at 1.2?) length of full diameter collar .75 inch diameter of tenon .9 at smallest threads fundamentally missing, just peaks length of tenon .75. Twist is 10 1/2 or 11 inches. Jameister@aol.com for any interest. will consider trade for some gunsmith work on a shotgun pad, TIG welding on a shotgun extractor, cleanup on a rail-mounted scope on a prewar Merkel combination gun, or a refinish on a shotgun stock. or a combination.. Keep it fun! | |||
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Thread it to 7/8 by 20 tpi then make a threaded sleeve to go over the tenon. Loctite the sleeve in place then thread it to fit the action of your choice. It's easier to make the sleeve first then fit the barrel to it. Regards, Bill | |||
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I often wondered about this but never tried it. I can believe it would be as strong and a full thread if done correctly. My question is this: what happens when it goes in the blueing tank? Won't it ruin the loc-tite joint? I woud feel better if it were soldered on with Force 44. Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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If I understand "SS" in the description...I think it is referring to stainlees steel...so that might be why Mr. Leeper was suggesting this approach... Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Jim, It can be attached with force 44 and I've done this too but loctite or Acraglas works just fine. With a decent fitting thread (and it should be better than decent)the loctite does a fine job of excluding bluing salts from the joint. Over the years I had a lot of customers and friends bring me take-off barrels of some description to fit to something different from what they had been. I've done a bunch of them. When I put the sleeve on, I apply the loctite then tighten it on with a big pipe wrench. They never move. I don't make a relief cut in the small barrel tenon but in the sleeve. I make this fit very close. I've done everything from 222 to 300 Ultra Mag and they have all worked fine. Regards, Bill | |||
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There is a lonnng thread around on this very subject from maybe two years(+/-)ago; I think the prevailing verdict was it was a workable solution, with examples cited. | |||
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The Browning BBR is a prime example of this. The bolt lugs are made up of a separate threaded sleeve that threads onto the barrel tenon, and then those two items thread into the receiver. It's a regular 3 ring circus, but it works.  The loctite is more than sufficient to hold the sleeve to the tenon. Loctite 271 will easily withstand hot bluing. Less messy too. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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a) I have made a bushing with internal threads for a 30-30 barrel on a 91/30. b) I have cut down and reamed out a barrel stub and Silver Soldered to put a 22LR barrel in an M98 in 223. I have not put on a barrel with Loctite yet. | |||
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That barrel is 27 inches long. That is a lot of metal to work with if you don't want to sleeve the threads. | |||
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What is the pitch of the existing threads? Single pointing the threads in the same pitch will pick them up. Somebody said you only need three full threads for full strength. It follows then that 9 threads 1/3 high would give you full strength. The might be streching it, but I know that,say, 9 threads 3/4 high works fine. JB weld helps. | |||
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gzig5 The barrels, and the rest of the gun parts that are no longer allowed on ebay, are now over on gunbroker.com. Mike Ryan - Gunsmith | |||
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Just list it as a new type of bore inspection tube to insure firearms safety. Thust me those idiots will not know any better.  Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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All the stuff that used to be on ebay went where all the other gun related stuff that ebay banned went... Gun Broker.com which was CREATED by ebay's original ban on firearms. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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BTW, I THINK small ring mauser uses smaller threads than that.... AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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