http://gunstockduplicator.com/

Looks like 1" support rails for headstock.

Looks a little light to this blacksmith.

They would sag under their own weight. Kenny

Yep. The guy that builds those has added a moveable brace for the user to slip under the bar.

I'm sure he built them that way to save a $ haven't priced them but those bearing are probably cheaper than the ones skb and dpcd used.

Knowing what I know now.

I wouldn't have one that the router and styles

didn't pivot length wise so the router bit could

be set level at any depth.

I really don't want my hand that close to that

router either. Kenny

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I wouldn't have one that the router and stylesdidn't pivot length wise so the router bit couldbe set level at any depth.

Yep makes inletting easier and better I think. That one above is a $1000 machine vs a $6-7000 for a Dakota. If you are handy like skb and dpcd you can build just as good or better than a Dakota for far less $$.

My unit was built with a handle on the router side. I run it from the spindle side. I had found that from the router side I could over power it. I think I get a finer cut from the spindle side.

Yep; his bearing rails are floating; not a good design. Mine are bolted to 6 inch box iron.

Which is better. Shaft or Rail?? Not talking about the free floated like above but support from underneath.

I used wheels and cables simply because I had them.
I don't feel short changed because of it.
If I was to build one and buy material to do it
right, the bearings designed for support is the way to go.Kenny

HI Kenny:

Sure would like to see what you built up for this. Am curious as can be. Only one I've seen and looked over in person was Ed Shulin's, said he'd paid $10,000 for it. Looked like it was 2' deep, 10' long and had side plates about 2" thick solid steel. When he got sick, a couple years before he died I understand he sold it to someone around the Denver area.

What I've seen at his place and various wood shops is Make damned sure you have really good ventilation. His place has that fine thick nasty wood working air to it. Sure as hell, he died of lung cancer before 70 I believe.

Wish you well and still hoping to see you in July.

George

Photos below of the cable and drum duplicator that at one time was in the Wisner shop. Multi stations and built very heavy for production use. Jim may chime in and give a comment.

I think it had 4 carving spindles, only one carving spindle is mounted in the photos.

Look close and you will see an automotive shock absorber we mounted to dampen out some of the movement.

Like I said, it was very heavy built. A friend owned it for several years, he finally sold it about 2 years ago.

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Only one I've seen and looked over in person was Ed Shulin's

The one Ed had when I was in his shop looked like a Dakota. There was a thread a while back about who had purchased his machine. I think the guy was up towards Greeley and has gone out of business. What happened to the equipment no one knew.

As to Wisner's machine I've seen battle ships with less steel. bet it got the job done.


How about a Dakota and Hoenig in the same shop

I prefer the linear bearings on a rail, supported by a big piece of iron, like in my duplicator; I don't like the cable and wheel design, although they do work. The linear bearings are much more expensive, but they never need adjusting or loosen, like the cables will.

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I prefer the linear bearings on a rail

In looking online for new supports for my set up I see linear bearing like the ones on your duplicator. There are two styles. One has a round "shaft" with a full support underneath like the ones in your duplicator. They also make a style they call a "rail" which kind of looks like a trail rail. Just wondered if there was a major function difference between "shaft" and "rail". Like would the rail catch more dust etc???

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Originally posted by ramrod340:

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Only one I've seen and looked over in person was Ed Shulin's

The one Ed had when I was in his shop looked like a Dakota. There was a thread a while back about who had purchased his machine. I think the guy was up towards Greeley and has gone out of business. What happened to the equipment no one knew.

As to Wisner's machine I've seen battle ships with less steel. bet it got the job done.


How about a Dakota and Hoenig in the same shop

That's Shane Thompson's shop, pretty sure that I took that photo.

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That's Shane Thompson's shop, pretty sure that I took that photo.

Highly possible.

I stole the picture from an article about "build custom gun stock from a semi".

http://www.rifleshootermag.com...un-stock-semi-inlet/

Yep! Funny