Well it doesn't bother me either way, but I'm pretty sure besides looking great, it definately doesnt STOP or HINDER my SAVAGE 17HMR shooting very small groups at 100 yards with Winchester Silvertips

regards
S&F

O.K. I see--you are using the small no recoil calibers.

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Originally posted by ztreh:
O.K. I see--you are using the small no recoil calibers.

Yes this is called a meditation gun, and helps sooth out flinching.

How's this for prior art on page 127?
Copyright 1973 PETERSEN Publishing
Gotta love those atty fees.
Pretty much voids both patents, utility & design.

Yep that would pretty much do it right there.

So if anyone ever gets a letter from them say "you can't do that" Send them a copy of that page and tell them to go pound sand.

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kcstott , James ; I concur .

Not being a lawyer or wise ass . I do know a little something of Patent infringement .

Nearly 30 years ago now ; I co - developed a product basically for the Deep Sea Fishing industry a Butt pad slipped onto
the rods body end . A bulbous cushion if you like . Made holding the rods end more comfortable than having to stick it into a leather cup or body gimbal cup . Anyway super fast one size slip lock plastic urethane configuration,easily carried in one tackle gear . A company out of Florida infringed on our patent . Judge gave them 90 days to diminish or deplete stock then cease and desist manufacturing !. A company can do a tremendous amount of damage in 90 days in as far as Number of products produced and sold !!!.

We sold our patent too AFTCO and learned a valuable lesson . He who manufactures first generally WINS ,patent be DAMMED !!!.

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AFTCO

You mean this?

http://www.aftco.com/catalog/AFTCOCatalog2011.pdf

The guy on the left?

An invention has to be novel and is not patentable if the claim has been common knowledge before the date of filing. My post above is a pretty good example of something that should have never been granted a patent.

Just because the patent atty didn't research the spiral flute well enough doesn't mean he didn't get paid. He's still getting paid for each cease and desist letter he sends out. If I were the patent holder or assignee, I would rather not throw money down a rat hole.

IMO, both these spiral flute utility & design patents are only valuable to the atty. He gets paid for his time, not his results.

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BaxterB

YES that's the company an NO our unit is no longer visible anywhere on the site as far as I know .

Pictures I would have of it are all Pre Electronic and are on slides and I've got nearly 12K too sort through ,so as to find one !, Then process with my scanner and digitize it . FYI I've done nearly 4K over the last two years 32 trays of Kodak 140 slide carousels and have at least 12K plus lose packed in slide storage boxes . You name it I probably snapped a photo of it . Viet Nam ,purveying wood, hunting ,fishing ,working ,vacations from so many countries I've lost count !. An organized labeling sort I wasn't an NOW regret that aspect of my life !!!.

Yes James agreed , Atty's make out win draw or lose as it's always out of someone Else's pocket in which their payment comes .

Notice the similarity of Atty's an Government !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.