07 November 2004, 15:13
craigsterAckleys and Mausers
Does the decreased body taper and increased shoulder angle on the AI rounds (specificaly 257 Ackley or 7x57 Ackley) necessitate feed rail and/or follower modifications when using a 98 Mauser action?
07 November 2004, 15:30
wildcat junkieYes, very much so. I am "wrestling" with this now.
It probably wouldn't be a problem to some, but I insist on absolute reliability.
I have had some limited sucess with a few "tricks", but I am still "tinkering".
I seem to have the most problem with the first round from a full magazine. The reduced taper makes the cartridge head "float", that is, it is not pushed up against the feed rails as positively as the shoulder section. Sometimes, the bolt rides over the first round without stripping it out of the magazine.
All subsequent (did I spell that right?) rounds feed reliably, it is just that first one that is iffy.
This is with an 8mm-06 A.I. You may or may not have the same problem with 7X57 variants.
08 November 2004, 05:44
WstrnhuntrI think it depends on the specific action/cartridge combination.
I have a 257 AI on a M-98 action and it has had no feed box alteration whatsoever and feeds flawlessly.
Build it and then address nessecary alterations.
08 November 2004, 05:57
fla3006I had a Brno ZG originally a 30-06 which was rebarreled in 280AI. It functioned flawlessly w/o rail or ramp work.
08 November 2004, 07:06
wildcat junkieRight now I have a 1904 Portuguese magazine that has been widened @ the shoulder area per the Mauser formula ( .866 x dia. + dia.) seems to have done the trick without feed rail mods. This is in a K98 that was WWII issue 8x57.
With the original 8x57 magazine that was merely lengthened (to the rear) to 3.38", I was getting the "first round feed" problem. The 1904 mag has been lengthened and widened, but widened only @ the shoulder area. I took out .012" to a side, tapering to .000" @ the rear, leaving the rear as is.
08 November 2004, 07:19
z1rwildcat junkie,
On those 1904 boxs, do you notice any tendancy to hang up due to that divot/bevel on the front edge of the mag box. I've only glanced at one of these and I have a buddy that wants to use one on his project. it seems that this would not sit flush with the feed ramp. Not having been able to handle on my concern is that the bullet nose may hang up?
08 November 2004, 07:41
Steve E.I have a 1910 Mexican Mauser rebarrelled and sporterized to 257 Robt. Ack and it feeds flawlessly.
I also have a 1909 Argentine action barrelled in 280 Ack. Imp. and it feeds flawlessly also, the only drawback with it is that I have to seat the bullets a little deeper than I like to function through the magazine.
Steve E.......
08 November 2004, 12:56
wildcat junkiez1r;
I had the front milled out as far as the floorplate would cover and then took a little off the back of the feed ramp.
I had the same concern as you.
Magazine I.D. length is now 3.395".
08 November 2004, 13:43
Toomany ToolsI did a 22-250AI on a VZ-24 and it feeds effortlessly without any modifications to the rails.
08 November 2004, 22:00
stepchild 2Craigster,
I have a 22/250 Ackley Improved built on a 1908 Brazilian action. No alterations of any kind and no problems either.
Stepchild