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Can I ship my long gun to an authorized service center for repair and have it returned directly to me without engaging an FFL on my end? If so can someone provide a link to the specific section of the ATF code that deals with this. Thanks in advance.
 
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Yes, you can. I receive from clients and return to them regularly through the mail. It is getting harder to find a carrier who understands the law. Sorry, I don't have the code handy.
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Its not the carrier, it's the repair center.
 
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Common carriers like UPS or Fedex have their own company rules and may not allow this. It is legal as SKB noted, I use USPS mostly and encourage my clients to do as well


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UPS will NOT allow anyone, even a dealer, to ship any firearms compondent, and even a dealer must pre register with them and always use pre paid labels.
Of course the firearm must go to a dealer. Or you can send USPS addressed to yourself; but the recipient can't open the package.
Fed Ex I do not know.
USPS has rules only for handguns, which must be shipped by a dealer.
I always remove stocks from rifles; makes a shorter box, and lessens the chance of breakage.
You must declare, nothing Hazardous, perishable, fragile. liquid, perfume, mercury, or lithium batteries. Do not tell them it is a firearm.
Yes, ATF allows it; carriers, don't. UPS said it was due to people making guns from parts (I refuse to use the term ghost).
You can google up the ATF rules if you don't believe us.
 
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Thank you.
 
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UPS will NOT allow anyone, even a dealer, to ship any firearms compondent, and even a dealer must pre register with them and always use pre paid labels.
Of course the firearm must go to a dealer. Or you can send USPS addressed to yourself; but the recipient can't open the package.
Fed Ex I do not know.
USPS has rules only for handguns, which must be shipped by a dealer.
I always remove stocks from rifles; makes a shorter box, and lessens the chance of breakage.
You must declare, nothing Hazardous, perishable, fragile. liquid, perfume, mercury, or lithium batteries. Do not tell them it is a firearm.
Yes, ATF allows it; carriers, don't. UPS said it was due to people making guns from parts (I refuse to use the term ghost).
You can google up the ATF rules if you don't believe us.


You'll be time and aggrevaion ahead by printing out the USPS guideline and taking it to the post office with you. Just in case...
 
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It’s the repair facility. No more business fit Ithaca service, too many BS hoops.
 
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Ship it to a ffl holder with USPS..Its a simple process..May prefer to include a copy of your DL with some guys..


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Post office may have gotten better over time, but I have normally had better luck with FedEx. There was a local collapse with the post office here recently. A guy sent me a package and it took 28 days to arrive.

UPS and other people had to come in and help with the build up. People were not getting their meds, a poor ladies wedding dress was not delivered in time..the local congressmen had to get involved. NO BS...

read the link here: Delays with Houston Mail

After this, I avoid USPS at all costs, but that is just me...
 
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What is the average guy supposed to do when UPS will NOT take firearms or parts from them, and will not take from dealers either. Unless they are registered with their office in India.
 
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What is the average guy supposed to do when UPS will NOT take firearms or parts from them, and will not take from dealers either. Unless they are registered with their office in India.


Get a UPS account, make a label at your computer, box it up and drop at a shipping hub, either UPS or contractor. Contractors are usually in rural locations and the brown truck picks up from them daily. They dont scrutinize each box. That's ONE way.
 
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What is the average guy supposed to do when UPS will NOT take firearms or parts from them, and will not take from dealers either. Unless they are registered with their office in India.[/QUOTE
Get a UPS account, make a label at your computer, box it up and drop at a shipping hub, either UPS or contractor. Contractors are usually in rural locations and the brown truck picks up from them daily. They dont scrutinize each box. That's ONE way.

I have done that. When making a label with UPS and it asks what I am shipping, in the text box I type the words "machined parts". As most people would agree, they ARE machine parts....am I right?
 
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Since you are willfully ignoring their company policy, in case you might have to file an insurance claim, you are screwed. They will not pay.
I guarantee you that listing firearms and parts, are not the same as machined parts and you will lose in court.
My problem here is that all the UPS workers at our terminal know me and know that I used to ship firearms weekly, until last year.
 
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SIG will NOT ship a repaired P365 slide back to a NYC address (tritium sight is dead)

So the slide must go from FFL to FFL. Some of the better shops will accept returns with no fee.
 
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I recently had a problem with a new Anschutz rifle. Their warranty repair center sent me a prepaid fedex shipping label.
I took the packaged rifle to FedEx, handed them the prepaid label. They gave me a tracking number and said thanks. It took less than a minute. The rifle was repaired and sent to my home address in three weeks, “adult signature required.”


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Most gun dealers, if not all wont accept the UPS plan and why should they, they dont need to, they can ship your gun them selves for you. I ship USPS with out problems.


Ray Atkinson
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208-731-4120

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