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I'm looking to get a bolt handle welded on a Mauser, I'd prefer a Talley, or something traditional like it, but the last one I had done didn't clear a scope mounted in low or medium rings. I'd like to mount a 42mm scope as low as possible. Suggestions? TIA, flaco | ||
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Tell whomever is doing the job that you want it to clear a low mounted scope, and/or send the receiver with the scope attached so he can make positively sure that it clears your scope. | |||
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telling them it needs to clear a low scope does not help them much. You need to send the scoped action to the gunmaker, or be prepared to live with what they send you. There is a wide range of measurements for differnt scopes, rings, and bases, not to mention the dimensional differences in the recievers. PM me if you need to get this work done | |||
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You might drop a note to Z1r. After he gets settle in after his new move, I'm sure he'll be looking to get back into the gunsmithing business. Jason "Chance favors the prepared mind." | |||
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I saw a bolt handle that Trez Hensley did at the recent show in Reno. It was great. The handle was in the Burgess style (which I would call oberndorf-esq). Trez did a great job I thought. Might want to contact him, I don't know how his prices are or his work load but it is worth checking. He posts here, probably has contact info somewhere in his posts. Red My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them. -Winston Churchill | |||
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A properly installed Dakota bolt handle will clear any scope you have regardless of how it's mounted Besides that...they look great IMO Here's one in the white:  and here's one blued.....this one was installed by Jim Kobe BTW:  /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Dago, I think Trez has a local friend/gunsmith do his metal/tig work. | |||
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Vapodog, those are nice! Flaco, If you're gonna get in touch with Z1R,,,get in line (behind me )I've got a 21H I bought a few years ago that's had a spoon handle installed. I don't think you could get a lower clearance. Terry  -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Vapo- Any brand bolt handle can hit the occular lens housing of a scope if the angle is slightly off for that particular rifle/scope/mount set-up. There is a large range of heights for the scopes and the handles can be "beatin' & bangin'" the scope with one set up where it works fine for many others. and yes, the Dakota handle you have there is very nice looking. | |||
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So, where can one pick up a Dakota bolt handle? I like that look too, but I couldn't find them listed on their website. | |||
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Dakota cast bolt knob next to a swede mauser bolt knob  Dakota knob next to a Talley knob and a '51 FN knob  This cast dokota knob of mine is real thin in the shaft just before the round knob end I thought this dakota knop looked pee-uny next to any other bolt knob I have. Maybe its a bad cast ? I just didnt like it. It is so thin I thought it would break off at the knob real easy. | |||
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I'd agree with the casting being small. It looks much better on a miniX through Mexican than a full size 98. They can be a real bitch to weld. Not always, but you won't forget the times that are. | |||
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GSP7 Is that bolt in the picture bent or just look that way? | |||
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the talley is swept back a bit | |||
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Brownells stock # 359 131 400 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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from observation, it seems to me that the lower the shaft is mounted to the handle lug coming off the bolt body, the more clearance you'll get- the photo above shows a "birds mouth" cut into the new bolt handle to mount it to the lug, this is what I'm talking about. the lug will always throw at 90 degrees, that's the fact that determines the clearance. | |||
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Maybe it's just the picture. The bolt body at the top of the second picture looks like a banana on my monitor. Bent near the back of the extractor. Probably just from being at the edge of the picture. | |||
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No its not bent . Just the picture or lighting looks funny | |||
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The only thing standard about scope ring designations being low. medium, and high is that they are not standard. Just go look in the Brownells catalog at ring heights actoss manufacture s for low medium and high. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Talley makes nice rings, but they are on the tall side. The low ones are around .300" from the top of the dove tail to the inside of the ring. Large ring 98 1.41" /2= .705 minimum height of base ~.150 low talley ring height .300 Half of 1" scope .500 ------------------------------ Total height above bore 1.655" 30MM scope would be another .090" higher. Again, I really like the Talley rings. But If low is what you're looking for they can't get very low. | |||
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