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JJS's Completed Ralf Martini Granite Mountain 404 Jeffery
05 November 2010, 02:08
fla3006JJS's Completed Ralf Martini Granite Mountain 404 Jeffery
Jim (JJS) asked me to post some pics of his completed 404Jeffery built by Ralf Martini on a standard length Granite Mountain double square bridge action. Think we'll all agree it's a masterpiece:
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05 November 2010, 02:22
458WinI'll second that. thanks for sharing
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com 05 November 2010, 02:58
shootawayCongratulations,that's a fine looking rifle.
05 November 2010, 03:50
srtraxquote:
Think we'll all agree it's a masterpiece:
Agreed!
Enjoy!
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05 November 2010, 04:18
Fal GruntBeautiful. I particularly like the straight Oberndorf style bolt handle with a tight relief in the stock.
Just my preference...
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05 November 2010, 04:27
WVFredBeautiful
I really like the lines of Ralfs rifles.
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05 November 2010, 05:02
Dago Reddo you know who did the color casing? beautiful work, the whole thing.
Red
05 November 2010, 05:25
jjsForrest, really appreicate you posting the pictures! It took me awhile to find them, I was looking in the Custom Gun Forum
The rifle is on the way and hopefully will be here early next week. I will be spending the next few days looking at pictures and "tracking" the rifle as it makes its way. I am as excited as a kid in a candy store.
05 November 2010, 05:34
jjsquote:
Originally posted by Dago Red:
do you know who did the color casing? beautiful work, the whole thing.
Red
Doug Turnbull did the color casing and it really seems to bring the wood and metal together.
The rifle was set-up to be color cased and at times I went back and forth on what to do...given the look sure glad we stayed on course!
05 November 2010, 05:48
Fal GruntI do not wish to be a pest, but would you consider providing more detail on the parts?
Barrel(integral parts?), bottom metal, bolt handle, etc.
Did you select the colors for the case? I know you can vary the colors depending on the process and pack contents. Is it me or does your color case have more gold in it than most?
Nathaniel Myers
Myers Arms LLC
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www.myersarms.comFollow us on Instagram and YouTube
I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools.
05 November 2010, 06:55
jjsquote:
Originally posted by Fal Grunt:
I do not wish to be a pest, but would you consider providing more detail on the parts?
Barrel(integral parts?), bottom metal, bolt handle, etc.
Did you select the colors for the case? I know you can vary the colors depending on the process and pack contents. Is it me or does your color case have more gold in it than most?
Actually, it is my pleasure to answer any question about the rifle.
1) The barrel, rib, etc. are not one part -integral. It is all Ralf's design and work including the front sight. The barrel, metal work, and transitions are really amazing to me. The barrel is a Krieger that Ralf profiled.
2) The action is a Granite Mountain Arms Standard Mag. Action, including bottom metal. Ralf did a significant amount of work on the action including some modifications to function and mag. box. Ralf also modified/replaced the bolt handle with his own design.
3) I had no "choice" in color of the c/c, not sure if it is possible to do so. I am going to have to get my hands on the rifle to really see the colors. In speaking with Ralf, I think the gold you see may be a brown/green/blue/gold that blends well with the stock and metal.
It is a tribute to Ralf's great talent the way this rifle turned out. It is trim, balanced, and the "parts" are a blend of the whole. It all works in concert to my eye and there is not a thing that does not work well with the other. Ralf said it is slick feeding and functions perfectly.
Ralf told me this rifle is "alive" and I will feel it in my hands...
I guess you can tell I am very pleased with the Ralf's work. Ralf and Mandy Martini are great folks to work with!
05 November 2010, 08:10
JudgeGHere's another image of a beautiful thing.
BTW, it is the second best acquisition you've made, my friend Jim, in the last year.
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
05 November 2010, 18:41
fla3006Jim, something else noteworthy, is the flat-top checkering.
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06 November 2010, 00:49
Canuckquote:
Originally posted by jjs:
quote:
Originally posted by Fal Grunt:
I do not wish to be a pest, but would you consider providing more detail on the parts?
Barrel(integral parts?), bottom metal, bolt handle, etc.
Did you select the colors for the case? I know you can vary the colors depending on the process and pack contents. Is it me or does your color case have more gold in it than most?
Actually, it is my pleasure to answer any question about the rifle.
1) The barrel, rib, etc. are not one part -integral. It is all Ralf's design and work including the front sight. The barrel, metal work, and transitions are really amazing to me. The barrel is a Krieger that Ralf profiled.
2) The action is a Granite Mountain Arms Standard Mag. Action, including bottom metal. Ralf did a significant amount of work on the action including some modifications to function and mag. box. Ralf also modified/replaced the bolt handle with his own design.
3) I had no "choice" in color of the c/c, not sure if it is possible to do so. I am going to have to get my hands on the rifle to really see the colors. In speaking with Ralf, I think the gold you see may be a brown/green/blue/gold that blends well with the stock and metal.
It is a tribute to Ralf's great talent the way this rifle turned out. It is trim, balanced, and the "parts" are a blend of the whole. It all works in concert to my eye and there is not a thing that does not work well with the other. Ralf said it is slick feeding and functions perfectly.
Ralf told me this rifle is "alive" and I will feel it in my hands...
I guess you can tell I am very pleased with the Ralf's work. Ralf and Mandy Martini are great folks to work with!
Gorgeous!!! Absolutely gorgeous!
I kick myself for not visiting Ralph every day of the last two weeks so that I could see it (and fondle it) fully assembled in person!
Good thing for you that I didn't...may not have been able to resist trading it all in for a life of crime!
Congratulations!
Cheers
Chris
06 November 2010, 00:56
Von GruffBeautiful.
Von Gruff.
06 November 2010, 02:50
Hawkeye MountaineerQuote JJS: Doug Turnbull did the color casing and it really seems to bring the wood and metal together.
>>> Boy, I'll say!
Gorgeous, indeed.
07 November 2010, 18:30
Big EarlThat is one sharp look rifle! You have truely been blessed. Bet your jumpning out of your skin in anticipation of getting it in your hands.
08 November 2010, 06:14
jjs[QUOTE]
BTW, it is the second best acquisition you've made, my friend Jim, in the last year.
JudgeG,
You could not have said that better...
Checked on the "travel" status and the item has been released from U.S. Custom and on the way here
08 November 2010, 09:56
mstarlingOh My!!!
Sigh ...
The search for perfection produces some BEAUTIFUL results! Congratulations indeed.
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http://www.mstarling.com 08 November 2010, 10:16
458WinAs easy as Ralf's rifles are on the eye, their real beauty becomes apparent when you throw one up to your shoulder. They are designed to be carried, hunted with and shot.
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com 08 November 2010, 22:39
jjsquote:
Originally posted by 458Win:
As easy as Ralf's rifles are on the eye, their real beauty becomes apparent when you throw one up to your shoulder. They are designed to be carried, hunted with and shot.
I will second that!
The rifle arrived this morning and it is just beautiful...best thing is it balances and points better than any other rifle I have picked up, just no comparisons.
This is the my first custom rifle and I could not be more pleased with the result. Ralf did a fantasic job!
I will play with it more tonight and give you a bit more later...Boy, am I h
appy!!!
Best,
jjs
08 November 2010, 22:56
CAS IICongrats. Nothing better than dreaming about a rifle for a long time and having the completed project meet or exceed your expectations.
09 November 2010, 03:56
fla3006quote:
CAS II: Nothing better than dreaming about a rifle for a long time and having the completed project meet or exceed your expectations.
Ditto. All too often they don't.
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14 November 2010, 20:57
TC1Simply stunning and just in time for an adventure!
I can't wait to see it in person. If I don't get to before you leave I hope you have some great stories to tell about it when you get home.
Beuatiful rifle jjs, congrats!
Terry
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15 November 2010, 03:50
jjsSpent a good part of yesterday and today sending some rounds down range.
I put together some handloads using Varget and H4831 sc for powder choices and North Fork 380 grain Softs and Cup Points. All together 9 different combinations that all shot pretty close together no matter what the load.
I took the last and most promising Varget load, nomial 2380 fps, setting up one last target for the day. Three (3) shots @ 100 yards produced a group that measured .595 "outside" spread. Just one big hole!
The rifle handles exceptionally well and the weight is perfect to carry. Even at 8.25 lbs without scope, the recoil is very manageable.
Could not be happier with the rifle!
15 November 2010, 18:54
MHC_TXI like it.....good luck on the up-coming hunt!!!
16 November 2010, 08:32
bwanamrmSimply superb from the classic lines to the classic caliber! And for the uninformed, what is on the menu on your upcoming hunt with that masterpiece?
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16 November 2010, 17:17
jjsHeading to Masiland for hopefully a couple of big Cape Buffalo...really looking forward to the trip.
Thanks,
jjs
06 February 2013, 22:59
Colt CommanderThat is a work of art.
07 February 2013, 00:09
BiebsIf you take a look on Guns International at the Hartmann & Weiss Mauser for $125,000, you'll see it's not much different! Good build!!!
07 February 2013, 03:23
fla3006Today I saw a newly built H&H 375 for sale in a local shop for $100K. Nice, but IMO no better than far less costly US guild quality rifles. I guess it's all in a name.
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07 February 2013, 04:24
FjoldVery nice, the only flaw is that the bolt is on the wrong side.
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07 February 2013, 04:36
silvertip1Didn't I read somewhere, maybe here on AR, that color case hardening does something to the heat treat of the action, and for that reason many gunmakers will not do it to the guns they make?
07 February 2013, 06:59
MK160Wow...just....WOW.
MK160
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07 February 2013, 18:39
adamhunterquote:
Originally posted by MK160:
Wow...just....WOW.
MK160
What he said!
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07 February 2013, 18:47
cal30 1906Outstanding!!!
Cal30
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07 February 2013, 22:00
jjsAppreciate the comments. Ralf Martini really builds a functional and nice looking rifle...
There have been several 404 Jeffery rifles built in the last couple of years that are really fantasic including:
Winks - Wiebe
ForrestB - Wiebe
HBH - Wiebe
Mjines - Wiebe
Seen pics of a nice Lon Paul. I am sure I am missing others but those just a few of the recently made 404s I have seen posted on AR.
Here are a few more pics that are better resolution but you have to follow the link
http://www.granitemountainarms.com/martini.html07 February 2013, 23:04
N E 450 No2If you think Ralf's bolt rifles are nice, you should handle one of his single shots.
His rifles are the best handling Custom made guns on the Planet, IMHO.
Which is the reason he was commissioned to do the design work on the new Heym Express bolt rifle.
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07 February 2013, 23:10
fla3006A pre-war beauty, for sale on GunsInternational, is a Christoph Funk, item # 100310978. Some great vintage Mausers currently available on that site.
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08 February 2013, 00:36
FAST996quote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
A pre-war beauty, for sale on GunsInternational, is a Christoph Funk, item # 100310978. Some great vintage Mausers currently available on that site.
I like that folding peep sight. Beautiful rifle.
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