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I have rebarreled a dozen or so Mausers. There are lots of instructions for doing that.

Can't find anything about a classic Win 70. Have some dimensions.

How do you measure the tenon length? After threading do you cut the cone or chamber? I guess I will have to buy the extractor cutter or use a smaller cutter and sneak up on the width. Any thoughts or help? Thanks
 
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Make it like the old barrel.
Tenon length is not critical; mine are longer than factory.
Cut the cone first.
I lathe bore the cones at the correct angle which I forgot but it is marked on my lathe.
Extractor cut; I mill with a Woodruff cutter. It is flat, not radiused but they work.
I also cut the cone to bolt lug clearance much tighter than on factory rifles; their clearance is huge.
 
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Bill Hinnant wrote a book on barreling actions and runs through coned breeches. It has lots of illustrations. Might be worth a look:

https://www.amazon.com/Complet...itting/dp/B001TOJTDA

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I just filed the extractor cut.

Dave
 
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Steve, thanks. I had never seen this book before. Ordered it from Bill Hinnant thru Amazon.
 
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According to the NRA Gunsmithing handbook, the tenon length is .928" x 1" OD. Pretty straightforward and the cone is 98deg off the horizontal. These have worked well for me

One step of caution, you don't want to cut the extractor slot without aligning it with the receiver. You need to torque the barrel to the receiver and then mark it, remove it and then cut the slot. I have two cutters, one from Dave Manson and one from JGS that cuts the slot just like the OEM model 70's.


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Right, fit the whole thing without the extractor in place and do what Jim said.
 
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Thanks guys, I'll give it a go when the barrel shows up.
 
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Originally posted by nopride2:
I just filed the extractor cut.

Dave


I'm with you...can't be bothered setting up the mill
(over mechanizing, I call it)..I use a hacksaw to remove the bulk of material
 
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This thread prompted me to think about when people buy a model 70 take-off bbl and and want to put it on a another model 70.

Does the extractor cut line up close enough? or do threads have to be removed and have it re-cut?

For that matter what if it has sight? are the threads cut precise enough that the sights would be TDC or does the bbl need to be re-timed?


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A friend used a heavy-duty Makita die grinder and a cut-off wheel. It worked real well. I usually use an end mill in the lathe and a Palmgren milling attachment.
In the end, it doesn't matter how it's accomplished; it's the result that counts. By the way, be sure the extractor does not contact the cut at all when the bolt is closed. A little clearance everywhere is good. Regards, Bill.
 
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Mike,

Per one of the other attendees at Trinidad and per the guy who bought one of my take-off barrels in maybe 2011 or so, later Model 70's are awfully consistent and take-off barrel's did time to another (untrued/un-adjusted/smithed) receiver.

I had trouble with mis-aligned scope mount holes, 3 position safeties, and crooked barrel on a few model 70's produced right before they shut down production in New Haven, so I was skeptical.

Plus I'd think most folks would want to true the front of the receiver ring if they were re-barreling.
 
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