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Bubba is alive & well (unfortunately)
11 December 2007, 03:10
D HumbargerBubba is alive & well (unfortunately)
This Savage was brought in because the cases wouldn't extract. After 30+ years gunsmithing you think that you have seen about everything.
The customer that brought the Savage 110 in 223 cal in got it in a sweetheart of a deal.

Apparently all this handy work was done to make the gun fit into a ramline stock for a Savage 110 La stock.
The two outboard cases are steel & the middle case is brass
Doug Humbarger
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11 December 2007, 03:32
Bill SovernsMy god...Ive seen some bad work before but thats not only bad its down right dangerous.
11 December 2007, 03:40
CheechakoA couple of screws and some plaster of paris will fix that right up.

Ray
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11 December 2007, 03:53
cummins cowboyjust tell them to only fire steel cases wolf, this after a little jB weld in the hole should do it, also give it back and tell them you threw in a deburing tool crown job for free
in times when one needs a rifle, he tends to need it very badly.....PHC
11 December 2007, 04:13
vapodogIMO that rifle should find it's way back to the guy that "altered" it and be made to pay for it!
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11 December 2007, 04:16
Tex21Doug,
It just like my Dad says, "Just when you think you've seen it all, you'll see something that tops it the very next day."
Who'd of thunk it, eh?
Jason
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
11 December 2007, 04:30
djpaintlesEvery time they make something idiot proof, they come up with better idiots!

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11 December 2007, 04:41
craigsterIf it wasn't so potentially dangerous, I'd think it was funny,
but it's not. Hard to believe that it went out the door like that and that the owner actually fired it. A couple of good candidates for the Darwin Awards.
11 December 2007, 04:58
Westpacquote:
Originally posted by craigster:
Hard to believe that it went out the door like that and that the owner actually fired it. A couple of good candidates for the Darwin Awards.
I doubt it went out the door willingly. I'll bet it kicked and screamed the whole phuquing way

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11 December 2007, 05:28
tnekkccI've done that.
The receiver is still ok, but you can TIG weld it up if it bothers you.
The barrel needs to be set back.
It teaches a guy to always pull the barrel before drilling and tapping. Resist the urge to make a blind hole. It might not be so blind.
11 December 2007, 05:37
jeffeossoO M G
that may be the worst thing i have ever seen

11 December 2007, 05:40
FjoldPull the barrel and throw it away and screw in another one. There is usually not enough barrel nut threads to set a barrel back more than about .200" or so.
Brand new take off Savage barrels are cheap and available all over the place for less than $100.
Check the vendors on
www.savageshooters.com depending upon
Frank
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11 December 2007, 07:05
gzig5Ground off the recoil lug too. Nice....
11 December 2007, 07:14
GSP7Heck, ifin he kept drillin more he wouldnt even have to tap it. He could have just used a long screw and put a nut on the top of the front ring

That 'ud hold 'er
Unbelievable!
11 December 2007, 07:55
Tex21quote:
Originally posted by djpaintles:
Every time they make something idiot proof, they come up with better idiots!

......................DJ
To quote MJines:
quote:
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Jason
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
11 December 2007, 08:33
cummins cowboymaybe that is some sort of new pillar bedding technique, you pillar bed the action and barrel, with an integral chamber vent thrown in for good measure,

just fill the hole with JB weld, no need to pull the barrel or weld anything,
in times when one needs a rifle, he tends to need it very badly.....PHC
11 December 2007, 09:58
JKSHoly smokes!

There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR!
11 December 2007, 10:11
tnekkccMaybe he was going for the V block.
Lug got in the way.
Who knows? it might have shot better, when the brass would come out.
11 December 2007, 17:51
tiggertatequote:
Originally posted by gzig5:
Ground off the recoil lug too. Nice....
I missed that the first time. You suppose the action screws were intended to be the recoil shoulders?
"Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson.
11 December 2007, 19:01
gzig5quote:
I missed that the first time. You suppose the action screws were intended to be the recoil shoulders?
We Band of Bubbas & STC
I would sugggest that the hack that did that has no concept of what a recoil shoulder is or much else firearms related.
11 December 2007, 19:04
Jim KobeIf'n you put a screw in that hole and them shoot it enuf, wouldn't it kinda fill the hole and then the problem would go away?
That one sure beats the Bubba job I had posted on.
Jim

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11 December 2007, 19:18
WestpacThat screw is probably used to adjust the slop from the chamber so he doesn't get off center primer strikes.
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11 December 2007, 19:30
rem721quote:
Originally posted by Westpac:
That screw is probably used to adjust the slop from the chamber so he doesn't get off center primer strikes.
I was gonna say, isn't that one of them precision cartridge alignment thingies?
11 December 2007, 20:48
RayGunterIts actually a Bubba excusive safety feature.
Its a gas vent
Ray
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11 December 2007, 21:07
larrysThe bad part is that there was an article in Shooting Times about drilling and tapping a mauser for scope bases and it said absolutely nothing about not drilling into the chamber or pulling the barrel. Now thousands of bubbas thing you can just drill and tap and be on your way.
Larry
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12 December 2007, 01:37
srtraxNote to self: drill hole in chamber, grind off recoil lug, put in a ramline stock that doesnt fit...A couple more of these and i'll build a benchrest gun with this kind of info

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12 December 2007, 02:44
J WisnerI hate to say it but that is not the first one I have seen that way.
In the early 80's I had a guy bring in a Ruger Mini 14 and he had put on a S&K scope base on it. He had drilled the front screw hole with a hand drill. He wanted me to tap the hole for him. I pulled the bolt back and looked into the chamber and yikes, there was a hole all the way thru into the chamber.
I handed it back to him and told him that the rifle would have to go back to the factory, since he had ruined it.
Had to explain to him about the hole into the chamber, affecting the cases.
He left mumbling something about a young snot nosed kid telling him what he could or could not do.
I quess that we will always have Bubba's out there.
Jim Wisner
12 December 2007, 03:13
Westpacquote:
Originally posted by J Wisner:
I quess that we will always have Bubba's out there.
Jim Wisner
Speaking as one who makes a portion of his living picking up after and correcting Bubba's handi-work, when it's possible, I have to say... Thank you Bubba!

In fact, I feel compelled to send him a Christmas Card.

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This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life.
12 December 2007, 06:50
Mort CanardHey, if barrel porting is good, chamber porting is better!?!?

...and without the recoil lug it becomes a recoiless design.

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12 December 2007, 06:57
ForrestBThis rifle will be given to the 2nd place winner in the Searcy Memorial Scholarship Fund Raffle.
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12 December 2007, 10:10
McCrayquote:
Speaking as one who makes a portion of his living picking up after and correcting Bubba's handi-work, when it's possible, I have to say... Thank you Bubba! Big Grin In fact, I feel compelled to send him a Christmas Card. thumb
I once had a carpenter tell me about 70 percent of his work was finishing and correcting jobs done or started by do-it-yourselfers. And that was back before all of the "home improvement" type shows.
I wonder what percent of a gunsmiths time is spent finishing or fixing others F'ups.
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12 December 2007, 16:56
Art S.Years ago, my dad traded for a 22 rifle which had this problem. He stuck the rifle in a closet. Later, a guy wanted to trade him a real "Saiko" watch, so he smiled and traded him the rifle for the watch.
13 December 2007, 08:02
458WinLooks like a graduate from the Bryce Townsley correspondence gunsmith course.
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cummins cowboyquote:
Originally posted by Westpac:
quote:
Originally posted by J Wisner:
I quess that we will always have Bubba's out there.
Jim Wisner
Speaking as one who makes a portion of his living picking up after and correcting Bubba's handi-work, when it's possible, I have to say... Thank you Bubba!

In fact, I feel compelled to send him a Christmas Card.
gosh I wonder who the regular AR poster that is....hmmm I think some of us may know the answer if we think really hard
in times when one needs a rifle, he tends to need it very badly.....PHC