Making a functional rifle out of a Winchester M70
I have recently purchased a Winchester Classic Featherweight in 308 Win. The design and overall appearance (except for finish) is very nice on this rifle. But obviously, quality control isn't of high priority at Winchester.
* As it is now the feeding is a bit problematic. Most rounds are gripped by the claw on their way into the chamber but especially the 4 th round isn't gripped at all.
* Round nose bullets often get stuck on the back of the chamber.
* The trigger is heavy and creepy.(this must be easy for a competent gunsmith)
So, can these problems be fixed by a gunsmith? Or is it back to the dealer and a refund?
What else could or should be done on this rifle to make into a good hunting rifle that functions perfectly.
20 June 2002, 01:44
<Don Martin29>You can learn to fix that little stuff yourself, hire someone to do it or buy more expensive rifles. Holland and Holland comes to mind.
I would take it out of the stock and work on the trigger. This site may help.
http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/AdjustingWinTrigger.htmSome here send their M-70's out to be tweaked. I just buy old ones that don't need tweaking. At least so far that's been my experiance.
20 June 2002, 04:42
hivelosityPCH. I have a M70 that needed a lot of tweeking.
Accuracy was ho hum. The barrell channel had a ridge down the middle that made it imposible to shot more than two times with out a change in the point of impact. I removed the ridge and floated the barrel, glass beded the action, and adjusted the trigger to 2 1/2 pounds. Shoots MOA now with most loads. I am still looking at how to remove the creep from the trigger. I was going to post a topic to see what other M70 owners have done to correct the problem short of installing am a fter market trigger. any ideas????
Dave
20 June 2002, 07:26
<Fireplug>My opinion is do not replace Model 70 triggers. They are bad from the factory to keep the lawyers quiet, but a good gunsmith can easily and cheaply make a better field unit out of the stock M70 than one of the aftermarket triggers. I had mine done sometime ago by J&G of Roseville, CA but I would guess $50 should still give you a clean break of 2.5-2.75 pounds from any good smith that knows M70s.
20 June 2002, 15:07
<Don Martin29>Do a search here on the subject. Some gunsmith here told how to reduce the sear engagement. A dab of epoxy was suggested.
This is easy to do.
I just broke in my classic stainless in 270 wsm. It shoots MOA. One complaint though. If I put just one round in the magazine and attempt to chamber it gets cought up in the chamber, something is hitting the side of teh case. If I fill the magazine and cycle the action relatively fast it works fine. This is my first win, is this normal for the "controlled feeding."
20 June 2002, 19:00
Pete in IdahoTrouble with feeding may be the norm with new -old 70s but not old -old 70s. I just bought a .338 rebarreled from a .270 with the bolt face opened up and extractor shortened, no rail work is needed. While checking things out before putting my money down I loaded the magizne with 3dummy rounds. They fed perfectly, then the seller said watch this and fed 3 empty case through the action. I did it again to make sure it wasn't a fluke. The gun shoots tight groups to!
Back aways on this board is a good discussion on adjusting Win. triggers.
21 June 2002, 07:59
hivelosityThanks Don: did the search , I have stoned the sear enguagement and that helped a lot, had thought about installing a 4-48 set screw like on the factory Savage triggers. the epoxy or a drop of hi temp solder may be a thing to try in the future.
Dave
24 June 2002, 17:02
AtkinsonAll the problems on your M-70 are an easy fix...all one needs to do is hone a M-70 trigger and set it up...It is still the best trigger ever made for a rifle...
THanks,
The trigger is an easy fix just as I expected. But how about the feeding problems?
25 June 2002, 04:59
<Don Martin29>To be honest I don't know how to slick a M-70 except in a general way. Perhaps there is a reference in Howes Gunsmithing or some book that we could be refered to. I have three old M-70's that feed perfectly. They are .300H&H, .375H&H and a .358 Win. I have not checked my 30/06 Featherweight. I know that my pre-64 that was a .264 Mag and now is a .224" wildcat with a short case does not feed perfectly but I don't really care. Well I do care but there is so much else to do. For a varmint rifle it's a want and not a need.
26 June 2002, 17:51
AtkinsonFeed and extractin is problematic and best left to a good smith, but it is not costly..Give it to our own John Ricks, he will fix it and not strain your pocket book...