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Scope mounting problem?
07 December 2002, 17:13
PEI ROBScope mounting problem?
I put weaver bases and Burris deluxe zee rings on my Savage, twice, but its aiming WAY to the right. Now what?
07 December 2002, 17:36
LeftoverdjI'd ship it back to the factory and let them worry about it.
07 December 2002, 17:45
MarkYou need to determine whether the mounts, rings, or holes in the receiver are out of whack. I'd start by reversing the rings- put the front one in back and the back one in front, and see if it still points to the right. Then use a ruler or straightedge on the bases, make sure the holes are drilled centered,but if they are offset it is OK if they both have the same degree of offset. Then last use the straight edge to check the screwheads to see whether the holes might have been drilled wrong.
Now tell us how much is "way to the right", a foot? an inch? 5 feet?
08 December 2002, 13:11
PEI ROBIs it possible the receiver and barrel aren't aligned? It looks like a $80 drive to a gunsmith, my scope is worth more than the rifle so I'm not foolin' around.
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I switched and checked but something obvious hasn't showed up. Thanks for you thoughts.
08 December 2002, 13:17
<JBelk>PEI ROB---
We need MORE information.
What Savage? What's "aiming" off to the right? Who drilled it? Are the holes straight? What scope? How far is it off at a hundred yards? Which way? Have you shot it, or are you boresighting?
08 December 2002, 17:18
LeftoverdjBack to basics.
Pull the bolt, set the rifle up solidly on sandbags, sight down the bore and line the rifle up on a target at least 25 yards away. Make sure the rifle is stable on the bags. If the bore is pointing at the target and the scope ain't, something is out of line.
At this point you send it back to the factory. They installed the barrel; they drilled and tapped the holes; they can damned well fix the problem.
08 December 2002, 18:49
<JBelk>Maybe I came in late in the conversation.
How do you know it's not a re-barreled early M-99 that was drilled by a plumber holding an electric drill?
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08 December 2002, 19:31
<G.Malmborg>You may not be too far off Jack.
Back in the early to mid 80's a fellow called and said he had an Enfield with a scope he could not zero. I suggested he bring it in for me to see.
It was a SMLE Mk3. As it turned out, the scope base was a piece of angle iron that had been welded to the side of the receiver and his rings consisted of 2 "U" bolts...
Malm
09 December 2002, 13:28
LeftoverdjJack,
"When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras."
09 December 2002, 13:47
<BigBob>PEI ROB,
Scope base screw holes drilled out of alignment is not uncommon. This is one of the reasons I use a one piece Redfield or Leupold type scope base. The windage adjustment screws in the base go a long way to correct this type problem. I hope that this is of some help. Good luck.
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09 December 2002, 14:31
PEI ROBTough crowd
NEW still unfired (except by the factory, remember that one) Savage 16FSS .300 WSM. Drilled and tapped from the factory. Floated the barrel properly ( OK I did it give me a break ), did slightly adjust the trigger so the "wire" remains in contact with casual force at all times, 4.5 to 5 lbs pull. Put on a Harris Bi-pod and sling. Cleaned it.
Borrowed a bore sighter and it was off a little even with the windage adjusted all the way. I'm saying a little because I don't really know but it didn't matter to me since the NEW B&L 4200 scope was adjusted to the max. Had to get the boresighter back. Tried another scope after, didn't seem any better looking down the barrel. About an inch still too far right at 25feet. Thats not very precise but looking down the barrel at my light switch isn't either. I haven't been able to get ammo yet (
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stupid laws
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) so its still unfired. Shooting it would be too damn easy wouldn't it. And for all you wise guys that scope isn't for grizzly hunting.
Maybe it will shoot fine but I found a guy somewhat nearby that I'm told will know what's up. Thanks. PS I hoope I goofed not the factory.
10 December 2002, 03:39
DutchIf I'm not mistaken, you can SEE in the picture it is off!
Couple of things to try:
* reverse the bases (flip them)
** swap out the rings for a new set (I've had "issues" with a Signature set, as well).
*** or, even easier, get the offset insert kit that fit the Burris Sig. rings, and center your scope with it. Definitely worth the $8.00.
HTH, Dutch.
[ 12-09-2002, 18:40: Message edited by: Dutch ]10 December 2002, 03:48
Major CaliberWhat is that ugly thing on top of the rifle, where a scope should be?
10 December 2002, 09:39
Terry BlauwkampWhat about a simple Leupold base with windage adjustment in the two back screws?
If that won't cure it, it has got to go back to the factory.
10 December 2002, 10:03
scot"What about a simple Leupold base with windage adjustment in the two back screws?"
Ditto, or Redfield,
10 December 2002, 11:52
<JBelk>PEI Rob---
Let me get this straight----- after all this discussion we find you haven't SHOT IT YET??!!!
NOR have you boresighted it yet by LOOKING DOWN THE BARREL??!! Are you in a jail cell? Nothing to look at but a light switch and no ammo.......that's what it looks like.
Thanks for the exercise.
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10 December 2002, 12:11
Russell E. TaylorIf you're not planning on abusing the scope mounts, I'd really recommend a Redfield (or Leupold) base that has adjustments for deflection.
Um... I'd also get out and shoot it, too. No ammo? Find some. Make it happen.
Russ
10 December 2002, 12:21
Zero DriftFor shits and tickles - make sure you did not pick up the Burris Signature rings with the offset inserts. I ran into this problem about 10 years ago with a friend�s rifle. Burris included their offset insert by mistake. He couldn�t hit paper at 100 yards. Changed inserts and bingo....
10 December 2002, 13:58
D HumbargerBent Scope?
10 December 2002, 17:39
John Y CannuckHey Jack, take it easy, "are you in a jail cell"
Note he's from Canada, jail cell aint far off when it comes to guns up here.
We're working on it!
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