I just purchased a mauser model argentino 1891.What do you guys think about this gun.It has had the bolt handle modified and has had a scope mounted on it.
Is this a good buy at $80.00.

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Is this a good buy at $80.00.

Find some milsurp ammo for it and have a ball. I'm not sure how much (if any) 7 X 57 ball ammo is still out there for sale.....but it's a gun for fun. Take it deer hunting too with federal or Remington factory ammo.
I cannot however recommend that you handload it like one would for a M-70 rifle. Stay with the 45KSI loads.

without checking olsens book, and going off memory, an 1891 argentine is NOT a 7x57. rather is chambered for the 7.65 argentine round.

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Originally posted by willmckee:
without checking olsens book, and going off memory, an 1891 argentine is NOT a 7x57. rather is chambered for the 7.65 argentine round.

Ditto! There seems to be a lot of the mil. surp ammo for sale. Check the Shot Gun News. roger

I shoot an 1891 mauser regularly, remember that it's not as strong as a model '98 Mauser action. Assuming it's in reasonable shooting condition how could you go wrong for $80. I have some low pressure loads I shoot in mine getting about 2250-2300 (don't remember the exact average) fps with a 180 gr., .311", Speer RN. All my load data is out in the garage so I can't look it up immediately. Graf sells brass and loaded ammo for it, there is a lot of milsurp available but I'm not sure how hot it's loaded, most of the milsurp was made for the 1909 Argentine Mauser which is a '98 action.

Mine was sporterized in the 50's, supposedly by Williams, carved stock and peep sights added, it regularly shoots under 1" at 100 yards with the load mentioned above. Asmentioned by WillM above it's in 7.65 x 53 Mauser, not 7 x 57.

Your gun is indeed a 7.65X53 Mauser.

I have a ton of surplus ammo if interested.

-Spencer

Let's be clear about this, the gun WAS 7.65x53 when it left the factory. It may still be. It may not. There are plenty of small ring 7x57 bbls, or others, that could haave been fitted sometime in the past when it was sported. please verfy the caliber first before shootingit.

The gun is imdead a 7.65mmx53mm. I will be going to see the gun dealer on monday to inform him that the gun he sold me and the gun he still has is infact a 7.65 Argentine Mauser.
Now that I have a 7.65mm I guess that I need some amo, does anyone have reloading info on this cartridge? I read in a reloading manual today that you could use a 30-06 case by resizing it in a 7.65 die and then trimming to the correct length.
Is ther anything else that I need to know before trying this?

The 7.65 X 53, AKA 7.65 Belgian mauser, aka 7.65mm mauser was produced by Mauserwerke in their 1889 rifle and again later in their 1890 and 1891 models and was sold into service by Turkey, Argentina, Peru, Bolivia, Columbia, Ecudor, and Paraguay.

There's no shortage of them and at one time both Winchester and Remington produced production rifles in that cartridge.

Loading data is available in several places.....look under 7.65 Mauser or Belgian Mauser.

It's a fairly powerful round and totally suited for hunbting deer and bear.