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Are any of you familiar with the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammerless Pistol. Hidden-Hammer fired, with some similarities to a 1911, including the grip safety, but about 40% smaller.
I have been looking for a 1908 version in 380 cal, but those seem to be difficult to find, and when available are a bit up there on price, whereas the 1903s are reasonably priced (by my standards anyway).
I want a carry pistol and the 380 in 1908 config is my preference. (The military version would be OK too. I like the workmanship, etc. and that Types 2 thru 5 have a grip safety and magazine safety.
Since it would be my CCW, I am not opposed to getting something like a 1903 and doing a mod to make it a 380.
Do any of you know if that mod would work. I have not been able to borrow a 1908 version, so am not sure if the frame and slide are nearly identical. If near identical, the mod shouldn't be too difficult. Probably springs, magazine, barrel.
Please offer suggestions.


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The Colt 1903 Pocket is not striker fired; it has an internal hammer. The Colt 1908 Vest Pocket is a striker fired .25 auto; could you be confusing them? The .32 can easily be converted to .380 by swapping barrel, magazine and recoil spring, but good luck finding a barrel. There are a lot better choices for a CCW pistol.


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Thanks John.
I was unaware of the striker vs internal hammer.
From what I have read, the 1903 was made in either 25 or 32 cal. I understand that the 380 was first introduced in the small pistol in 1908, I think getting it's designation from that date.

I have a machine shop, so I expect that making a barrel from a piece of 9mm rifled stock may be do-able, but am unsure as to the cuts that would be necessary. I am also unsure whether the magazine cutout for a 25 or 32 is the same as what Colt did for the 380.
All this is still in the research stage.
I do understand that there are a number of other good CCW selections, but so far I have not found any that I preferred over that Colt Pocket model in 380. One thing I have seen is that the cost of a 380 magazines for those Colts may kill the whole project.


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The problem is in with the internal hammer and safety--too slow for me in CCW, I want to pull it out, pull the trigger without a safety to dick with. I also prefer not to carry a gun in my pocket with the hammer back. Therfore, I'm a big fan of the striker fired guns that cock with the trigger pull. BTW, the only Colt in .25 is the 1908 Vest Pocket, a totally different (and useless) gun. Given enough time and tools making a .380 barrel wouldn't be out the rhelm of possibilites; might be fun.

The Ruger LCP might be worth a look. My wife carries one,


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The differences that I recall between the two calibers in the 1903 Pocket Hammerless Colt are.

barrel
magazine
ejector
bolt face diameter

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Brownells told me barrel and mag were all that was needed to convert .32 to .380. For all practical purposes they are the same ballistics. I'm keeping mine .32.


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Originally posted by Mike Michalski:
Brownells told me barrel and mag were all that was needed to convert .32 to .380. For all practical purposes they are the same ballistics. I'm keeping mine .32.



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